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Old 11-18-2012, 06:48 PM   #36
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hello guys : forgot i was even register on this site.
Ive been setting up my 6ixer for cornering ever since i got it. Ive done a lot mostly street set up but was wondering if i take the next step to track level i may have gone to far as to being in a competitive class for a 6er.

What are the different class spec's

my brakes are big, excuse me ( monsters). relocated battery and installed windstar. pro springs, 2x joints, bump kit, sway bars. no bracing yet.

Is there some type of book showing class spec"s
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you won't be in an f-stock class i know that for sure. Classes can be different from competition to competition so you'll need to see your local rules. however with just having the brakes and the windstar you'll be in a higher class.
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hello guys : forgot i was even register on this site.
Ive been setting up my 6ixer for cornering ever since i got it. Ive done a lot mostly street set up but was wondering if i take the next step to track level i may have gone to far as to being in a competitive class for a 6er.

What are the different class spec's

my brakes are big, excuse me ( monsters). relocated battery and installed windstar. pro springs, 2x joints, bump kit, sway bars. no bracing yet.

Is there some type of book showing class spec"s
Got any pics of the brakes? Sounds like a well set-up car.

That bowl work in you Avitar is sexy, did you do that?
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:16 AM   #39
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Got any pics of the brakes? Sounds like a well set-up car.

That bowl work in you Avitar is sexy, did you do that?
I added some pictures to my album, yes that's my port work.(split port exhaust)

I figured moving the battery to trunk would help get some weight off the front of car,plus the windstar manifold was quite a bit lighter than stock,the GT sway bar made a noticeable difference
I have a stock car friend that will put it on his scales,just for kicks.

There is a local road coarse 10 miles away i am going see if i can talk to someone see what going on
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Mine handles awesome with only 225s on it got my new wheels and 245s and 275s are going on it
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Heating? Heat +springs = bad. That's why we use cut off wheels instead of torches
Correct the heat will make the steel weak and break
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:06 PM   #42
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GREAT INFORMATION EXPLAINING OUR MUSTANGS AND SUSPENSION:
Late Model Mustang Suspension Basics
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Old 01-07-2013, 06:58 PM   #43
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added in a link to my eibach strut tower brace install for those wanting to find it later on

Strut Tower Brace Install

and rear shock replacement

Rear Shock Replacement
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Good write up!
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Anyone with a sixer should follow this advise! I did and i loved it

Heres how my experience with this was in my old 98 v6

First i took a trip to pickapart and pulled a rear sway bar off a newedge gt for $25

Second i went to a metal shop and got a solid bar with flat ends made to fit in the rear shock tower brace for about $35

Third i got a front strut tower brace off a 95 gt that i found on craigslist for $30

The last thing i got was a set of eibach prokits that someone traded me for one of my hoods... i paid $100 for the hood so lets say i got them for $100... these i never got to put in because the car was hit and totaled

Im currently starting over on all this with my 2000 sixer i just bought

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looking good...i'm sure those eibachs will do nicely in the new car
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Yeah, I was just reading about suspension system options and the V6 Mustangs SN95's best option cheap is sway bars off of a GT. Too stiff will take away from the total performance.
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I don't if it was mentioned but full length subframe connectors are a must. Will really stiffen the unibody up.
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I'm about to pull subframe braces and a rear say bar at the junk yard and most the older like 96 3.8s also have rear sway bars, I thought it was only GTs
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I'm about to pull subframe braces and a rear say bar at the junk yard and most the older like 96 3.8s also have rear sway bars, I thought it was only GTs
Ive notice this also i think they might have just put some on the sixxers those years
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Old 04-18-2013, 10:53 AM   #51
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One thing that often gets neglected is a good performance alignment. From the factory our cars come with a lot of positive Toe (toe in) which decreases steering response when entering your turn. I personally did an alignment with -.06 degrees of toe on each front wheel (-.12 total toe out) and -.1 degrees of toe on each of my rear wheels (-.2 total toe) the rear toe only applies to those with IRS. That alignment made a huge difference when I enter turns, I could enter at a higher speed and hold that momentum all the way through the turn.
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:42 PM   #52
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Here is what I have on my car so far,


Kenny Brown front springs 650in/lb liners
H&R SuperSport Rear at 260in/lb rears
Maximum Motorsports CC Plates
Koni Single Adjustable yellow struts
GT Sway Bars with Urethane bushings
Prothane 4" Endlink Kit
FRPP Cobra Front Control Arms
Maximum Motorsports Lower Control Arms
GT Rear Bar
GRC Full Length Subframe Connectors
Kenny Brown K-Member Brace
Eaton Truetrac Limited Slip
FRPP 3:73s

Maxi Mo Panhard Bar going in soon.

The biggest issue on the Pre -05 mustangs is the stock 4 Link for handling.
The Upper Control Arms are badly designed to handle lateral loads on corners.
The best route is going to a 3 link setup which will ideally eliminate the binding
upper controls. You can switch to Torque Arm will take over the duty of UCAs.
But this will require the use of a panhard bar to keep the axle centered under
the car. THE MAIN ISSUE IS THE BINDING UPPER CONTROL ARMS for handling.

I see many using the sway bars to improve handling but those should be used
for more of a tuning aid in reducing and eliminating understeer and oversteer
sitaution as you push the handling of the vehicle to its limits.

There are other factors that need addressing first like chassis flex, wheel hop,
body roll etc. IMO I would start with a good full length subframe connector
to eliminate chassis flexing under load in the corners. Then move to reducing
wheel hop with a good set of lower control arms etc. Then convert to a 3 link setup
with the use of a Torque Arm and either a Panhard Bar or Watts Link.

Just my 2 cents fellas.
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If I had the $$$ I would also covert the front Macpherson design over to
a SLA or a Short Long Arm setup for the front. This will reduce the need to
run huge amount of negative camber. The SLA design IMO only requires like
about half the negative camber that the Macpherson design would need like
for example -3 degrees to -1.5 of neg camber.
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looking good...i'm sure those eibachs will do nicely in the new car
I wish there was a thread like this for s197 sixxers
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Old 12-29-2013, 04:18 PM   #55
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Does a car lower then 1.5" handle better? Because it would have a lower center of gravity so I assume it would.
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If you set up the rest of the car for it then yes it does. I had a noticeable decrease in body roll when going from a 1.5" drop to a 2.5" drop. It was then solidified by the fact that I was able to fend off mildly modified S2000s that were kicking my *** on previous track days
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Old 12-29-2013, 04:27 PM   #57
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Okay great thank you, I was looking at getting coilovers instead of lowering springs due to the larger(and adjustable) drop in coilovers.
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Old 12-29-2013, 04:32 PM   #58
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Yeah no problem. Just need to remember that it will take a lot of work to get the alignment dialed back in, bumpsteer situated, control arm angle set properly, etc. when you drop it that low
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Thank you very much, and yeah my family owns a Ford dealership so I'm not to worried about alignment and installation.
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Awesome. Good luck with everything and keep us updated on your build! There aren't too many guys on here who like taking turns
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Will do(: and I know,I wish more people would care about being fast through corners where it's actually fun than going extremely fast down a straight road(which is still fun)
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Most people just haven't experienced the adrenaline rush you can get from it. I enjoy the challenge of taking my slow car and trying to keep up with cars that are way out of my league
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This is true, I first learned about real corner adrenaline rush when my grandfather would take me out in his lamborghini Murcielago and Ford GT
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That sounds like it would have been a blast!! Other than my car I've only gotten to experience a GT500 and an Evo 8 (both putting down some great numbers) in the turns
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My uncle drives a 2014 gt500 as a DD and yeah it's really fun to be in with him
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I love the twisties, never been to a track day, but I would love to go to one once I get some suspension mods under my belt

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And maybe a few more go fast mods too
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My uncle drives a 2014 gt500 as a DD and yeah it's really fun to be in with him
Yeah those cars are a blast to drove! I got to drive my buddies 12 GT500 the day after we put a Whipple on it, needless to say i felt really really slow when i hopped back in my car.





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I love the twisties, never been to a track day, but I would love to go to one once I get some suspension mods under my belt

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And maybe a few more go fast mods too
I would go before doing any serious mods to the car. It's a great way to see how your car has progressed with just some simple suspension mods
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Yeah those cars are a blast to drove! I got to drive my buddies 12 GT500 the day after we put a Whipple on it, needless to say i felt really really slow when i hopped back in my car.







I would go before doing any serious mods to the car. It's a great way to see how your car has progressed with just some simple suspension mods

Yep definitely in the 40th anniversary gt500 we have we have over 725hp which is a bit of a waste in a car but when I go back to my main car I feel slow

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Eh it all depends on what you're using the car for
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I just ordered parts for the Cobra. Will arrive today. The set-up will be identical to the green Mustang, just different manufacturer pieces.
-Fox Body Koni STR T shocks and struts.
-H&R Super Sport Springs
-J&M C/C plates.
-Steeda X2 balljoints.
-Steeda bumpsteer kit.
The Mustang shop will dial in the bumpsteer kit and provide alignment. I did the last install and the bumpsteer adjustments drove me crazy.
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