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Old 09-17-2012, 04:54 PM   #1
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new cam?

Hey guys I was looking into cams and was wondering how much HP I could get by adding a new cam thanks
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Re: new cam?

JUST a cam? A cam plus retune(you'll need it) will probably get you around 25-35rwhp. Now if you add a higher-flowing intake manifold then expect gains over 70rwhp!
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cam alone, no other mods 15-20

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JUST a cam? A cam plus retune(you'll need it) will probably get you around 25-35rwhp. Now if you add a higher-flowing intake manifold then expect gains over 70rwhp!
if "intake manifold" includes ported heads, P&P lower intake and a windstar upper swap with full exhaust then sure lol
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Sound s good to me
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Re: new cam?

to give a more accurate estimation what all mods do you have done/will do with the cam?
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Old 09-17-2012, 05:29 PM   #6
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Does any one know where to get a cam for a v6 ive been looking and can only seem to find em for gts
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I got mine from Kyle

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Paid ~250 for it back then
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to give a more accurate estimation what all mods do you have done/will do with the cam?
Well right now I just have lt headers dual flow master 40 cai an a tune...

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What's the damage about gonna be to have it installed any one know
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Re: new cam?

hey that helps a good bit, more exhaust flow to let it breath

do it yourself? it's not terribly hard anyone who can comprehend a $30 repair manual can install it lol (granted you have the tools)

if you got someone else to do it i would assume200-300ish if you get a fair shop, depending on the aggressiveness of the cam will determine if you can limp it to a dyno or not to be tuned, also determines if you require new valve springs and pushrods
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Re: new cam?

compcams.com should have everything you need for a cam swap.
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If you get a new cams then your going to have to get new pistons and rods and valves and o- rings unless you wanna put pressure on your engine causing it to blow
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Thanks for all you're help everyone
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If you get a new cams then your going to have to get new pistons and rods and valves and o- rings unless you wanna put pressure on your engine causing it to blow
Not accurate at all.

What 'O-Rings' might you be referring to?
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How is that not accurate. It's common sense. Bolts ons help hp but don't at wreck the engine.

Adding just a certain part to your engine is stupid. That only causes more hp causing the engine to run harder when he steps on it so piston can blow ad screw up the whole engine.


I'm just saying if you wanna be able to thrash your gears and even gain more hp get what I said
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How is that not accurate. It's common sense. Bolts ons help hp but don't at wreck the engine.

Adding just a certain part to your engine is stupid. That only causes more hp causing the engine to run harder when he steps on it so piston can blow ad screw up the whole engine.

I'm just saying if you wanna be able to thrash your gears and even gain more hp get what I said
Adding a correctly spec'd cam will not 'blow your engine' this is tried and true fact.
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Yea but he wont gain anything special from it when he could put In a performance cams
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Yea but he wont gain anything special from it when he could put In a performance cams
Ppl add E-cams to 5.0L push rod motors for years now with no issues. It is a performance cam.

Correction.. Decades not years..
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5.0 L. !! Not a 3.8 the 5.0 is a completely different set up
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5.0 L. !! Not a 3.8 the 5.0 is a completely different set up
Ok man.. You win.
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Re: new cam?

I was kinda there with you too "deadspot", until he pointed out that it was a 3.8 V6, then I thought F%@$, he might be right about that.
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I was kinda there with you too "deadspot", until he pointed out that it was a 3.8 V6, then I thought F%@$, he might be right about that.
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You can put in a performance cam on a 3.8 v6 without changing out the pistons and rods. A cam controls the opening and closing on the valves allowing air/fuel in and exhaust out. Granted to get the best results from a cam you would need to port and polish the heads and intake and do a proper valve job. But you do not by any means NEED to change the pistons and Rods.
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Dear god honestly people?? You think a cam will f over a motor haha so I guess all those guys who throw 10+ psi (BOOST) on a stock motor must blow it sky high everytime they touch the gas pedal...
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I got mine from Kyle

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Paid ~250 for it back then
+1000 on kyle

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Dear god honestly people?? You think a cam will f over a motor haha so I guess all those guys who throw 10+ psi (BOOST) on a stock motor must blow it sky high everytime they touch the gas pedal...

I'll say this politely since star trek up there just gave me an infraction early, if you don't know what you're talking about shut your mouth (not at you deadspot, to make that clear -_-)
Hey David aren't you running a performance cam
On stock 4.2L internals?
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Hey David aren't you running a performance cam
On stock 4.2L internals?
Yes lol
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I would like to say if ur looking into cams, from my research the lumpy cam from supersixmotorsports.com will also give u that v8 sound from ur v63.8. But along with that then ur car will have to get retuned. And from the sounds of it u already have a tuner in place... the lumpy cam will cost ib the ball park of $379.00, not vad for a cam that will help with rhe loudness of ur exhuast and not to mention the looks people willl give u when they realize that ur dricing a v6 not a v8
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Yes lol
And have u blown ur engine yet on those stock internals?
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You can put in a performance cam on a 3.8 v6 without changing out the pistons and rods. A cam controls the opening and closing on the valves allowing air/fuel in and exhaust out. Granted to get the best results from a cam you would need to port and polish the heads and intake and do a proper valve job. But you do not by any means NEED to change the pistons and Rods.




You wouldn't absolutely need new valves and pistons. But the cam is causing more a/ o ratio making the pistons to work harder. I was just stating if you wanted to keep the motor alive longer than 2 years. It work make the engine run better. Y'all are slaying my life haha
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And have u blown ur engine yet on those stock internals?
No I can't kill this ***** lol

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You wouldn't absolutely need new valves and pistons. But the cam is causing more a/ o ratio making the pistons to work harder. I was just stating if you wanted to keep the motor alive longer than 2 years. It work make the engine run better. Y'all are slaying my life haha
Ratio doesnt increase the amount of mixture in chamber does..

Stock internals have been proven time and again to hold 350rwhp easily, and that's for a lot longer than 2 years
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Yea stock internal that are maybe brand new.

For example it's just like saying a stock 2000 v6 mustang has 190 hp that's wrong because the unless the car has under 50,000 miles there's wear and tear.

How ever old the kids car is say 11 years old the internals are already beat to hell
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Yea stock internal that are maybe brand new.

For example it's just like saying a stock 2000 v6 mustang has 190 hp that's wrong because the unless the car has under 50,000 miles there's wear and tear.

How ever old the kids car is say 11 years old the internals are already beat to hell
I have 96k miles,
2003
Many people have done boosted set ups that last forever that have over 50k miles on them.
It's all about maintenance of the car.
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Well you guys can just guess that the kids previous owner took care of the car. My mustang is a 2001 v6 and my car has been beat to hell and somehow came back.
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Well you guys can just guess that the kids previous owner took care of the car. My mustang is a 2001 v6 and my car has been beat to hell and somehow came back.
Mines been in my family since day one, regular oil am filter changes. And things as needed still runs strong.
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Yea stock internal that are maybe brand new.

For example it's just like saying a stock 2000 v6 mustang has 190 hp that's wrong because the unless the car has under 50,000 miles there's wear and tear.

How ever old the kids car is say 11 years old the internals are already beat to hell
Wrong again... You highly underestimate these little sixers lol everyone running around right now with boost and built top ends (ignoring those who have new forged internals) have a good bit of mileage on them and no problems, hell my 02 still had factory cross hatching in the walls at 118K miles and it started life as a rental car and has never had an easy life since..
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