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Old 09-27-2012, 09:59 PM   #1
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how much hp do i have with these upgrades

I would like to get a estimate on how much hp i have on my 04 3.9 what ive done so far dual magnaflow exhaust catback 2.5 pipe with a h pipe.. cold air intake.. any advise on what else to add for more hp enough to keep up with a gt
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With those 2 mods + a tuner that would give you a very big difference in HP gains cause you letting more air in and exhausting it just as well I can give you an exact estimate on how much HP but it will be HUGE trust me.
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I would like to get a estimate on how much hp i have on my 04 3.9 what ive done so far dual magnaflow exhaust catback 2.5 pipe with a h pipe.. cold air intake.. any advise on what else to add for more hp enough to keep up with a gt
We can throw numbers around all day, but the only real way to find out your HP and TQ is to get it dynoed.

With all that and no tuner you are looking at like 5 maybe 7 HP/TQ, and thats on a good dyno run.
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We can throw numbers around all day, but the only real way to find out your HP and TQ is to get it dynoed.

With all that and no tuner you are looking at like 5 maybe 7 HP/TQ, and thats on a good dyno run.
+1.. Prolly about 20 with a tuner. Makes a huge difference. 20 isn't a big number but is a decent amount or our cars weight and everything. Feels like a new car after a tune on it.
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Get a bama tuner, jba headers, 4.10 gears with give you a lot of torq and if you got theses mods I would suggest getting a stronger rear axles and like a stage 2 clutch and you minus will get an aluminum flywheel

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Probably be running 250 to 265 with the proper tune
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Thanks guys for the advise i forgot to mention my car is automatic ... what type of tuner is best bama or sf3 from american muscle... also what kind of rear end do i get or off what car can i pull it from

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Im a total new b on this guys thats why i have a lot of questions and you guys are very helpfull ..Scratch the rear end i ment to say the axles 3.73 or 4.10 .. my totak goal is to be pushing 260- 285 hp
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To get 285 I would supercharge or stroke your engine. The axle get 28 spline make sure it's the v6 axles. The get 7.5 not the 8.8 in. As far as gears go I would prefer 4.10 is more for more torq. 3.73 gears is more top end but we have v6 and we wanna wax civics like nothing

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For all that hp you will need a new gear box for your automatic

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And bama you get fre tunes for life and only run 87 or 91 octane when you get the tune
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Your looking at probably like 3 grand if you do most o the stuff your self. I hope I was helpful
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Many of our customers own and cherish the V6 Mustang as it provides a nice blend of practicality, fuel efficiency and sportiness. Although the 99-04 Mustang V6 is by no means a hot-rod from the factory, it can be improved upon and made fun-to-drive. From the factory, the V6 is rated at 190 HP, which translates into around 145 rear wheel HP on our in-house DynoJet dyno. Follow the steps below to make the V6 Mustang a contender on the street.

Stage I: This begins with the basic bolts on, which are relatively affordable and simple to install. Begin with a MAC Cold Air Induction kit (+5HP) $170, ASP Power Pulleys (+10 HP), MAC Dual Exhaust conversion kit (+7HP), JBA Shorty Headers (+6HP), DiabloSport Predator tuner (+5 HP). This simple combination will yield around 185 rear wheel HP.

Stage II: If you want to continue building power with a naturally aspirated formula, GTR offers custom grind camshafts for the V6 Mustang. Also, adding Ford Racing 3.73 gears will greatly improve acceleration. Depending on the specs, this will bump output up to 210 rear wheel HP.
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As for the headers, getting Shorties on a car thats naturally aspirated, especially a 6 cylinder is going to do very little. Notice i didn't say it won't help at all, but compared to longtubes, even with the cost difference, is a better way to go in terms of a better flowing exhaust setup, and a deeper tone in general
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Get a bama tuner, jba headers, 4.10 gears with give you a lot of torq and if you got theses mods I would suggest getting a stronger rear axles and like a stage 2 clutch and you minus will get an aluminum flywheel

Probably be running 250 to 265 with the proper tune
with headers and a tuner (btw jba headers are shortys and yeild MAYBE 2 hp) you'll see ~8-10 on the wheels

and i have factory axles in mine, know why? they are the same ones used in GT's lol both the 7.5 and the 8.8 share the same 28 spline axles from the factory

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Thanks guys for the advise i forgot to mention my car is automatic ... what type of tuner is best bama or sf3 from american muscle... also what kind of rear end do i get or off what car can i pull it from

Im a total new b on this guys thats why i have a lot of questions and you guys are very helpfull ..Scratch the rear end i ment to say the axles 3.73 or 4.10 .. my totak goal is to be pushing 260- 285 hp
bama tunes all the sct stuff there so if you get the SCT xcal3/SF3 you get their tune, you don't need a rear end for bolt on horsepower...

if you get gears it's highly recommended you get an lsd (limited slip differential) as with the higher torque multiplication of the gears it 'll spin that one tire a lot with a factory open differential

to get 260-285 on the wheels will take motor work not bolt on's.. or forced induction of course which would be cheaper in some respects

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To get 285 I would supercharge or stroke your engine. The axle get 28 spline make sure it's the v6 axles. The get 7.5 not the 8.8 in. As far as gears go I would prefer 4.10 is more for more torq. 3.73 gears is more top end but we have v6 and we wanna wax civics like nothing

For all that hp you will need a new gear box for your automatic

And bama you get fre tunes for life and only run 87 or 91 octane when you get the tune
from what it looks like you're saying gears give you tq with is false... they give you the feeling of it because they are tq multipliers but by no means are they actually increasing your tq numbers, go onto a dyno with both and you won't see a difference

you won't need a new transmission for all that, simple modifications such as a stall converter trans cooler and a shift kit can damn near support 600hp...


and to add to all that OP, you have a convertible which when it comes to racing will take some extra oomph to get going because of the weight they have
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Everything I previously said just I'm a much nicer, not removed way lol
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Can i put a 5.0 engine in my model mustang
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it's possible, but unless you get a donor car very cheap and can do all labor a V8 swap is just if not more expensive than just buying a gt, it's your choice
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You may hear it a lot, but honestly the best way to get a V8 is to sell your car and buy a GT.
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And u just grabbed his heart and ripped it out of his chest lol
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And u just grabbed his heart and ripped it out of his chest lol
Lol the truth hurts usually
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Exactly. Ive git a 4.6 Teskid block sitting in my garage, but chances are is that ill buy a gt with a blown motor and put that in there. Hell of a job for a sixxer. Tad easier since i got the harness though
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some of the hp estimates in here are way high...others right on the mark
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I never stated the hp to the wheels. I state general hp
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I never stated the hp to the wheels. I state general hp
Either way you're not getting 260+ crank hp with bolt ons, new edge gt makes 260 crank, equates to ~220-225 whp, that will still take motor work
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Either way you're not getting 260+ crank hp with bolt ons, new edge gt makes 260 crank, equates to ~220-225 whp, that will still take motor work
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Glad to see this at the end of the post. You kids need to understand how Hp and motors work. 10 Hp + 10 hp does Not = +20 hp. And a lot of the numbers were way too high. Exhaust may get you 5-10 if your lucky from stock.
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question for you rob, by chance you have a supercoupe swap? bout the only thing i could think of that would make that big of a tq to horsepower difference
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question for you rob, by chance you have a supercoupe swap? bout the only thing i could think of that would make that big of a tq to horsepower difference
Nope I did the 4.3 Stroker about 9 years ago. I also had alot of other stuff done as well, Custom Cam, Custom Big Valve Heads, ported lower, etc... pretty much everything but a power adder. The numbers in my sig are that old though. But I also did a few things since then. Last year I built a custom Upper intake with a 70MM TB and put in an X-pipe with high flow cats. if you do a search you can find pics of it. But I would now guesstimate I'm about 240ish RWHP which is roughly 275ish bhp. Not too bad for a N/A Mustang. And just about 3 months ago I but a 100 shot of NOS on the car. WOO HOO!!! That way I'm not beating my engine up all of time.
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Nope I did the 4.3 Stroker about 9 years ago. I also had alot of other stuff done as well, Custom Cam, Custom Big Valve Heads, ported lower, etc... pretty much everything but a power adder. The numbers in my sig are that old though. But I also did a few things since then. Last year I built a custom Upper intake with a 70MM TB and put in an X-pipe with high flow cats. if you do a search you can find pics of it. But I would now guesstimate I'm about 240ish RWHP which is roughly 275ish bhp. Not too bad for a N/A Mustang. And just about 3 months ago I but a 100 shot of NOS on the car. WOO HOO!!! That way I'm not beating my engine up all of time.
OH built single port that explains it, nice numbers man, get it on a dyno again since you've changed up some stuff
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Nope I did the 4.3 Stroker about 9 years ago. I also had alot of other stuff done as well, Custom Cam, Custom Big Valve Heads, ported lower, etc... pretty much everything but a power adder. The numbers in my sig are that old though. But I also did a few things since then. Last year I built a custom Upper intake with a 70MM TB and put in an X-pipe with high flow cats. if you do a search you can find pics of it. But I would now guesstimate I'm about 240ish RWHP which is roughly 275ish bhp. Not too bad for a N/A Mustang. And just about 3 months ago I but a 100 shot of NOS on the car. WOO HOO!!! That way I'm not beating my engine up all of time.
Hey do u have any vids of ur car
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