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Old 05-11-2008, 05:45 PM   #1
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Better tires = better 0-60?

I read somewhere that just putting sticky tires on the rear wheels will improve 0-60 time substantially but I was wondering what brand and if anyone knew the exact figures on this (assuming perfect conditions, perfect shift, etc)

I have a 08 manual v6 and this idea makes sense because I can spin the tires effortlessly going into every gear but 5th, so eliminating wheel spin should launch the car harder right? The car is completely stock.
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Re: Better tires = better 0-60?

it will definitely help... mickey thompson drag radials work awesome but only last around 3k miles, bf goodrich gforce drag radial (which I use on the stang) lasted about 6500 miles.. nitto drag radials (that I used on my 02 GT) lasted around 15k miles..
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Re: Better tires = better 0-60?

spinning the tires and just barking them are two different things... does the new v6 have a limited slip? you might want to start there... practice is just as big of a deal as tires!
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spinning the tires and just barking them are two different things... does the new v6 have a limited slip? you might want to start there... practice is just as big of a deal as tires!
I'm pretty sure it doesn't have limited slip, but I'll have to check on that. I know it doesn't have traction control. Does barking the tires mean chirping them?
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yeah just louder .... i mean tires are just delaying the problem... if youre gonna put the power down then do it right... it would look pretty funny to have slicks and only spin one in the burnout box
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it will definitely help... mickey thompson drag radials work awesome but only last around 3k miles, bf goodrich gforce drag radial (which I use on the stang) lasted about 6500 miles.. nitto drag radials (that I used on my 02 GT) lasted around 15k miles..
Nitto drag radials sound like a winner, thanks! I'm going to wait until I can actually drive stick well enough before I put them on... almost there
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yeah just louder .... i mean tires are just delaying the problem... if youre gonna put the power down then do it right... it would look pretty funny to have slicks and only spin one in the burnout box
Ahhh, so limited slip keeps both tires spinning instead of just one... got it! Damn I'm a newb!
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Re: Better tires = better 0-60?

think about it... if you put two tires in motion compared to one... you have twice the traction to start with...
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Re: Better tires = better 0-60?

in my 65 i went from 2.80 gears with an "open" (would only spin one) and i put a beefy traction-lock with 3.40 gears... it would spin more (even after the gear reduction so there was just more torque to the ground) with the non-limited slip with wimpy gears
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in my 65 i went from 2.80 gears with an "open" (would only spin one) and i put a beefy traction-lock with 3.40 gears... it would spin more (even after the gear reduction so there was just more torque to the ground) with the non-limited slip with wimpy gears
does a larger gear at the rear end make each gear lower or higher?
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the higher the number the lower the speed...

if you have a 3.27 then a 4.10 is going to make your max speed much lower (but youll get there faster)
if you have 3.27 and you go to like 2.8 youll have more top speed but it will have a hard time getting out of its own tracks
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Re: Better tires = better 0-60?

Got it, that's what I thought but I just wanted to make sure. That probably eats up some mileage with the lower gears though. I thing hitting 60 in 6.6 is fast enough I just need the traction of a limited slip. The only other thing I'm interested in is taking off the speed limiter (I hear it will hit 130 without it) but I don't want to get a superchip and have to advance ignition timing and all that. Any idea how I can just take off the governor without obviously voiding warranty?
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Re: Better tires = better 0-60?

If you're worried about voiding warranty get a handheld tuner like a Xcal or the like, you can always flash the cpu back to stock before carrying it in.
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Re: Better tires = better 0-60?

i HIGHLY recommend Sniper... hands down...
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SCT FTW
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Re: Better tires = better 0-60?

if youve never used it then dont talk **** about it...
they are working on a "real time" tuning next update...
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Re: Better tires = better 0-60?

whoa whoa whoa there cheese tits

i dont think any one was talkin **** geeze lol
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whoa whoa whoa there cheese tits

i dont think any one was talkin **** geeze lol
for you... id recommend SCT and stick with the "stock" tune... it seems your kind of green to the gearhead theory
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if youve never used it then dont talk **** about it...
they are working on a "real time" tuning next update...
Guy who comes to our car club uses it all the time, he even has a business tuning cars with it. And he likes SCT better
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Re: Better tires = better 0-60?

one opinion i guess mine offsets it... what can i say...
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Re: Better tires = better 0-60?

The SCT is just vastly popular. It must be for a reason . . .
No need to get defensive, rwboring. Different people want and use different parts. That is the beauty of options with the Mustangs.
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Old 05-27-2008, 06:21 AM   #22
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SCT has also been around forever... people are afraid to venture....
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Re: Better tires = better 0-60?

I'll stick with what all the best shops are using.
Who even does Sniper?
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Sniper themselves... out of Florida... if you read up on it brothers own it and one has worked with computer systems since the 80's and was in the picture with buick and their GN/GNX stuff... have any of those shops even seen it... id like to see if any of them have actually dealt with the software... and you have to pay 100$ per "bullet" after you use your first two... and if you pay for the commender system you can do really fine tuning with 3d fuel curves and such... i mean im not knocking all the mustang shops but who goes in to that detail (and who is going to pay for the 100$ bullet)... SCT is free for them once YOU buy the tuner...
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i HIGHLY recommend Sniper... hands down...
SNIPER SUCKS !!!!! SCT For the win SCT is the only company that offers a software package that gives the user full control and there tunes are dyno proven !!!!!
Even SCT's basic XCal2 (without the PRP) offers datalogging sniper doesn't not !!!
Snipers Patrick back in the day worked for Hypertech- Superchips,Diablo. He and his brother Chris formed Sniper and they are a Long way from Justin VMP tuning talents and knowledge
And yes 2 local shops tried sniper and were very disappointed
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Re: Better tires = better 0-60?

Let's not get into any mudslinging. Rwboring obviously feels strongly about the Sniper and it seems to work well for him. Most others enjoy the popularity and ease of the SCT. To each their own.
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Let's not get into any mudslinging. Rwboring obviously feels strongly about the Sniper and it seems to work well for him. Most others enjoy the popularity and ease of the SCT. To each their own.
Most others have never given it a chance but it is the same as everyone getting the good ol' flowmasters...
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and i got 28-29.5mpg averaging 75 from Indiana to west Virginia both ways last this weekend...
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for you... id recommend SCT and stick with the "stock" tune... it seems your kind of green to the gearhead theory

I dont think you know the definition of a theory, and I definitly wasn't asking for your input on anything.
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No arguing :badidea:
Let's just stay ntopic:
. . . or else.
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rwboring are you related to Patrick/Chris ?? Every other site where someone was ratting and raving about sniper being the best turned out to be a relative/friend
Anyway when sniper has proven themselves in the tuner market and has the same expertize and knowledge that the other company has I'd be more then willing to give there tuner a try. But until then I'll stick with a proven winner and site sponsor
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actually nada... i just get rattled when people say get Type A exhaust type B intake... etc etc... i guess my entire point is... personal preference... and if you havent used them then you dont REALLY know... ive used SCT alil... never used diablo but from everything ive seen its essentially the same...

but herbstang just for ****s and giggles... id like to see some dyno charts between them... and like i said there was a guy on (i think mustangforums) that gained 7rwhp from a SCT dyno tune to sniper... i dont know... to me if you are on a dyno... you can tune them the same... if one has less power it is going to be a lil less dangerous tune...
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definitly need trac loc, if you go with the mickeys it may be too much tire and you will bog off the line which will result in poor 60ft.i say the nittos or bfgs would be better so you might get a chirp or a small amount of spin off the line.

as far as sniper tuning goes, they also offer tuning sofware that allows you to change all parameters, our shop has done a buy in with both sniper and sct but the fact of the matter is, sct has been well marketed so people are more familiar with it but both programs yield great results.

on the mod motors we have only noticed a 1-2 mpg degrease in fuel mileage when going to 4:10 gears.
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actually nada... i just get rattled when people say get Type A exhaust type B intake... etc etc... i guess my entire point is... personal preference... and if you havent used them then you dont REALLY know... ive used SCT alil... never used diablo but from everything ive seen its essentially the same...

but herbstang just for ****s and giggles... id like to see some dyno charts between them... and like i said there was a guy on (i think mustangforums) that gained 7rwhp from a SCT dyno tune to sniper... i dont know... to me if you are on a dyno... you can tune them the same... if one has less power it is going to be a lil less dangerous tune...
Yeah I'd love to see SCT vs SNIPER on the dyno too. The more I research Patrick Stadjel . He developed the software for diablosport and basically help start SCT I guess it come down to the tuner not the software Both CST and Sniper have there pros and cons
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