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Old 05-05-2013, 07:51 PM   #1
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Would it be possible to build a fast without touching the motor? Other things like suspension, gears, tune weight reduction etc.
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Auto x is a whole different subject though.
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Just curious cause for the amount of money going into motor you can get a lot of other things done.
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Just curious cause for the amount of money going into motor you can get a lot of other things done.
It's a constant struggle more power, or better handling, brakes, looks lol
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Would it be possible to build a fast without touching the motor? Other things like suspension, gears, tune weight reduction etc.
full bolt ons with a tune may get you around what GTs make stock. so short answer no, you'd have to go FI if you want to put down some serious power.
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Need more then bolt ons for stock GT power
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that's why I said may haha
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it's going to cost some serious money but you could get it in down to 10 seconds on the quarter mile.
SSM did it with a built 4.2 stroker and nitrous. Some other guy(can't remember his name) did it with a single-port 3.8 with twin turbos.
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it's going to cost some serious money but you could get it in down to 10 seconds on the quarter mile.
SSM did it with a built 4.2 stroker and nitrous. Some other guy(can't remember his name) did it with a single-port 3.8 with twin turbos.
Don't see the point in that just buy a v8 n do it for way less $
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Don't see the point in that just buy a v8 n do it for way less $
Because its lighter...
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With equal mods the v8 will still out power the v6 the the weight difference doesn't mean as much
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Some people like making the weaker engine faster.
There was this pumped up turbo'd VW bug that probably also had nos, it was hauling *** down the dragstrip. I never looked at its time but it was winning alot of the races.
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It's not fair to compare a V8 to a V6. Of course the V8 will blow the base model out I the water. People love to mod the V6's to be the fastest V6 around, not to beat GT's. but there are people who strive to beat GT's. it's like comparing a GT to a Termi. Stock for stock the Termi wins 100% of the time and you'd need a buttload of money to get the GT as fast as the Termi. Another example a 2013 GT vs a 2013 Shelby GT500
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I get the idea that the v6 is a diff class of car than he gt. I guess I just don't see why someone would dump that much $ built motor turbo. To run with gts to each their own I suppose
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I get the idea that the v6 is a diff class of car than he gt. I guess I just don't see why someone would dump that much $ built motor turbo. To run with gts to each their own I suppose
Yeah it's kinda dumb to try and beat a car that was made superior to your own. But hey, if you have the money, time, and tools go right on ahead and provide entertainment for the rest of us
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These V6's are actually pretty good, most other company's only makes V6's that are 2.5-3.0 litres.
So with some mods you should be able to put all of the 3.8 or 4.2 displacement to use.
My dad always said the one secret to making power is just air and fuel. The faster you can get it in and out the better. So i'm guessing with some porting and polishing, a good cam and then tune would probably wake it up quite a bit.
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Yeah it's kinda dumb to try and beat a car that was made superior to your own. But hey, if you have the money, time, and tools go right on ahead and provide entertainment for the rest of us
Not entirely true. I've beaten a termi no clue wat was done to it but it was fun maybe he couldn't drive
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Not entirely true. I've beaten a termi no clue wat was done to it but it was fun maybe he couldn't drive
Stock for stock. You don't have a chance, with same experience drivers.
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Stock for stock. You don't have a chance, with same experience drivers.
In all honestly with these 10+ year old cars no one is gonna have a stock car even the v6's unless it's owner isn't into cars that don't race or anything.
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Yeah but what I was trying to say is that when the cars were built, they had a superior model to them. Yes a modded GT can beat a stock Termi. I'm not saying it can't. But you till have to dump money into the GT to make it as fast as the cobra . Heck, I have 2 V6's one stock and one lightly modded. It's just for me to have fun though not to go out to try and beat GT's
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My friend with just bolts on and a built up drivetrain ran high 14's with a V6 lol launching at 3500 and hooking helps a ton
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it's going to cost some serious money but you could get it in down to 10 seconds on the quarter mile.
SSM did it with a built 4.2 stroker and nitrous. Some other guy(can't remember his name) did it with a single-port 3.8 with twin turbos.
That's doing stuff to the motor, OP was asking about making it faster without motor work.

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In all honestly with these 10+ year old cars no one is gonna have a stock car even the v6's unless it's owner isn't into cars that don't race or anything.
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it's going to cost some serious money but you could get it in down to 10 seconds on the quarter mile.
SSM did it with a built 4.2 stroker and nitrous. Some other guy(can't remember his name) did it with a single-port 3.8 with twin turbos.
This is what I was originally referring to. Why dump that much into a v6 when much more could be had out of higher model for far less money. I goes without saying v6<gt< termi< gt500 all stock. But why dump 15k a v6 when u could have just bought. Boosted GT or termi for the same price? That was my point.
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Heck, I have 2 V6's one stock and one lightly modded. It's just for me to have fun though not to go out to try and beat GT's
And u know know damn well if u raced a GT and won you'd be bragging over a over with your buddies lmao
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And u know know damn well if u raced a GT and won you'd be bragging over a over with your buddies lmao
My buddies know about cars, so they'll just bag on me and tell me to stop racing little rich kids :p
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This is what I was originally referring to. Why dump that much into a v6 when much more could be had out of higher model for far less money. I goes without saying v6<gt< termi< gt500 all stock. But why dump 15k a v6 when u could have just bought. Boosted GT or termi for the same price? That was my point.
I like being underestimated so by the end of this year I should have my swap done on my sixxer and ill be beating any full bolt on 13' unless it has a turbo or supercharger.
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I like being underestimated so by the end of this year I should have my swap done on my sixxer and ill be beating any full bolt on 13' unless it has a turbo or supercharger.
I bought my car v8 boosted for 8500 and have walked a few new 5.0 and termi. I'm waiting for my motor to come in also. being built 5.0 stroker raceport heads stage 2 cams probably 10 lbs of boost. My argument is why dump that much money into a v6 when u could have had a v8
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I bought my car v8 boosted for 8500 and have walked a few new 5.0 and termi. I'm waiting for my motor to come in also. being built 5.0 stroker raceport heads stage 2 cams probably 10 lbs of boost. My argument is why dump that much money into a v6 when u could have had a v8
Sleepers! And people love the idea of building up a car. It's what the cars owner wants and likes. Yeah you can buy a V8 to be faster but then again you can buy a V6, build it up and be proud of yourself
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Sleepers! And people love the idea of building up a car. It's what the cars owner wants and likes. Yeah you can buy a V8 to be faster but then again you can buy a V6, build it up and be proud of yourself
I suppose. I'll be just as proud of my v8 lol
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Yeah haha, unless you're like me and haven't found the perfect car. I don't want a modded V6, I want a NE Mach 1 or a Termi. My all time favorites. But yet here I am with 3 wimpy V6's
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All it takes to beat a stock gt is a 4.2 with a cam. More power more money. More money more power. Sounds better the second time.
The ? is. Which motor do you want bragging rights with?
I can run with a 8 and lose then tell em you beat a 6. I'll be back with more power later. It's fun to beat a 8 and tell them you got a 6. Doesn't always happen that way.
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I bought my car v8 boosted for 8500 and have walked a few new 5.0 and termi. I'm waiting for my motor to come in also. being built 5.0 stroker raceport heads stage 2 cams probably 10 lbs of boost. My argument is why dump that much money into a v6 when u could have had a v8
I want to be able to say hey I beat a cobra in my sixxer. Lol even though it won't be a sixxer anymore. Lol but either way. I just love the fact of being able to tell people what I've done to my car rather than buying it already built with horsepower. Rather built than bought I say.
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I suppose. I'll be just as proud of my v8 lol
And thats your opinion. What I like about the 6, is I can build it up and make pretty good power, enought to possibly beat GTs sure, but with that same power as a DD I can get MUCH better city MPG.

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I just love the fact of being able to tell people what I've done to my car rather than buying it already built with horsepower. Rather built than bought I say.
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