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Old 07-15-2013, 07:30 PM   #1
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port n polish pony power

The secrets to porting and polishing. Most people do not tell them because it is their money maker. The people who sell the products do not support our sight. This is a cheap and easy mod that will wake up your ponys. The cost is gaskets and a dremel. These will not have the same flow numbers as CNC heads. But will be a drastic improvement.
I know some of the secrets and any input and pics.is appreciated.
DO NOT GASKET MATCH
Not all knowledge learned on the internet applies to your specific application.
Polish the upper intake.
Can you runner match lower and upper intake? I think you can but I am not sure.
Polish the upper half of the lower intake.
You do not need to remove lower IRMCs unless this is a super charged application.
Polish exhaust ports of the head.
Do not polish intake ports unless supercharged. This will interfere with gas traveling properly.
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The secrets to porting and polishing. Most people do not tell them because it is their money maker. The people who sell the products do not support our sight. This is a cheap and easy mod that will wake up your ponys. The cost is gaskets and a dremel. These will not have the same flow numbers as CNC heads. But will be a drastic improvement.
I know some of the secrets and any input and pics.is appreciated.
DO NOT GASKET MATCH
Not all knowledge learned on the internet applies to your specific application.
Polish the upper intake.
Can you runner match lower and upper intake? I think you can but I am not sure.
Polish the upper half of the lower intake.
You do not need to remove lower IRMCs unless this is a super charged application.
Polish exhaust ports of the head.
Do not polish intake ports unless supercharged. This will interfere with gas traveling properly.
You leave the long runners a tad rough since thats the runner with injector, promotes atomization of fuel, but you don't want it super rough..

And what's wrong with gasket matching? It's simpler to do, try and port match the runners though for best results, you don't want any air running into a wall!
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You leave the long runners a tad rough since thats the runner with injector, promotes atomization of fuel, but you don't want it super rough..

And what's wrong with gasket matching? It's simpler to do, try and port match the runners though for best results, you don't want any air running into a wall!
On the exhaust side you need to create a slight vacuum to pull expanding gases out of the cylinder. I do plan on port matching using paint or gasket maker. I'll try to paint the intake quick and put it on the lower and press. Might be a stupid idea.
I did not know the word atomization, thanks. I knew fuel needed to slow down to travel properly except turbo and super charger. Did not know it had a swirly/vortex like effect.
Are you referring to the bottom half of the lower intake when you said, "you leave the long runners a tad rough."
What are potential gains for people who want to port and polish without a tune and with to promote some Ortiz tunes?
Doesn't seem like any one else is interested. I do not want to guess
What are upper intake port and polish gains?
Upper and lower intake port and polish gains?
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On the exhaust side you need to create a slight vacuum to pull expanding gases out of the cylinder. I do plan on port matching using paint or gasket maker. I'll try to paint the intake quick and put it on the lower and press. Might be a stupid idea.
I did not know the word atomization, thanks. I knew fuel needed to slow down to travel properly except turbo and super charger. Did not know it had a swirly/vortex like effect.
Are you referring to the bottom half of the lower intake when you said, "you leave the long runners a tad rough."
What are potential gains for people who want to port and polish without a tune and with to promote some Ortiz tunes?
Doesn't seem like any one else is interested. I do not want to guess
What are upper intake port and polish gains?
Upper and lower intake port and polish gains?
In lower and head the long runner needs a very slight roughness yes

Porting is only one side of the story, you can port the hell out of everything and gain at most 20-25 crank horsepower, you need a bigger cam to really take advantage of the increased volume, and skip a ported upper, just do a windstar no porting needed and has great flow characteristics throughout the rpm range

He will provide a very aggressive tune to give you the most potential from all the modifications and not rich/low spark advance tunes like some others. I'm a dealer for his products and tuning services so you can just go through me if you wish to order.
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Upper intake you might as well do a windstar swap, beter flow then most p/p jobs will get you on the stock upper, the lower can be ported though
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I would like to do a Windstar, but no extra money. I am going to port a 3.8 intake. I don't think the 4.2 will work right with a tune. My AM tune has my idle at 1700 r.p.m.s with the 4.2 intake. It worked fine without a tune.
I would love to do a 00 Ford F-150 intake. The intake is just like the new 5.0 intake. Way too much modification needed to make it work. Including cutting through the fire wall. How much will a tune run from you David for the cam, porting and all my mods? I hope to get 45 hp. and need a new rear end.
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I would like to do a Windstar, but no extra money. I am going to port a 3.8 intake. I don't think the 4.2 will work right with a tune. My AM tune has my idle at 1700 r.p.m.s with the 4.2 intake. It worked fine without a tune.
I would love to do a 00 Ford F-150 intake. The intake is just like the new 5.0 intake. Way too much modification needed to make it work. Including cutting through the fire wall. How much will a tune run from you David for the cam, porting and all my mods? I hope to get 45 hp. and need a new rear end.
I have a windstar upper sitting at my house if you want it

Yeah they don't ask for a datalog to see what is actually going on with the car lol just assume the tune is good unless you have a complaint

I thought about messing with the F150 upper before and well yeah it won't clear anything very easily >_>

I'll send ya a pm for pricing
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I know you can open up the 2 inner intake ports. I found that out on Tom Morana under the article Six Therapist and can flow over 280 cfm. But I think this applies to boosted applications. Also internally where the short runners meet the long runners some can be shaved off the edges. I can not find a pic. of the technique.
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Bumping a post. this is why I agreed with you to port match may be 1/8 inch bigger. Found some pics. from a reputable porter.
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Those pictures look familiar, who ported that?
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Those pictures look familiar, who ported that?
It is a naturally aspirated port and is Delks work. I went through 400 post to get here. WOW! Always nice to get some extra assurance. All I could find on SSMS is supercharger and turbo(not good) pics. It would not mater they have CNC machines. I could not imagine 70 hrs. and a bench flow machine, learning perfection.

I could not believe someone polished a 4.2, because it responds at high r.p.m.s
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familiar does not mean good... i wouldn't let delk put a rear seat delete in my car.. let alone do motor work
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familiar does not mean good... i wouldn't let delk put a rear seat delete in my car.. let alone do motor work
Haven't herd any bad about Brent, but I am not from Texas. What happened?
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Haven't herd any bad about Brent, but I am not from Texas. What happened?
Google delk? You'll find at least 1 thread in the first page of a horror story
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Google delk? You'll find at least 1 thread in the first page of a horror story
Post Mortem of a Custom 4.2 V6 from Delk Performance
Got a new search engine. Google surprised me. He is a big mess and a money hole.
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Got a new search engine. Google surprised me. He is a big mess and a money hole.
Yep!
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His stage 3 heads are $2,000 and awful. I am stupid to porting and know how to water test.
Should have read 500 post lol
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