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Old 07-26-2013, 01:16 PM   #1
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I'm planning on cutting my springs today or Sunday an have all kinds of questions. I I cu the springs 1.25 coils off the front how bad will that throw off the camber? Should I buy caster camber plates? And do I cut the top or the bottom of the spring? I plan on doing the 1.25 off the front and 1 coil off the back
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I'm planning on cutting my springs today or Sunday an have all kinds of questions. I I cu the springs 1.25 coils off the front how bad will that throw off the camber? Should I buy caster camber plates? And do I cut the top or the bottom of the spring? I plan on doing the 1.25 off the front and 1 coil off the back
You can stay with factory plates for that amount of cut, I did 1.5 up front with keeping the isos and it still dropped mine about 1.5"-1.75". The back was cut 1.25 coil with only top isos left in and a bunch of tape on bottom. I was gonna just leave it at 1 coil in back but it wasn't enough since the *** end is gutted.

Of course get an alignment, but wait a couple weeks before you do so it has time to settle back in.
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David I just realized we almost have matching cars lol
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You can stay with factory plates for that amount of cut, I did 1.5 up front with keeping the isos and it still dropped mine about 1.5"-1.75". The back was cut 1.25 coil with only top isos left in and a bunch of tape on bottom. I was gonna just leave it at 1 coil in back but it wasn't enough since the *** end is gutted.

Of course get an alignment, but wait a couple weeks before you do so it has time to settle back in.
How much did the back lower?
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After the 1.25 cut and gutted rear about 1.5" or so
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After the 1.25 cut and gutted rear about 1.5" or so
what do you mean by gutted rear David? sorry never heard the term, just curious to know what it means.
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I think it was a typo
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Nope. He means that his trunk is bare metal. No seats, spare, etc. weight reduction
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Because idgaf.. Dropped out ~100lbs including the tail pipes being cut off
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Because idgaf.. Dropped out ~100lbs including the tail pipes being cut off
I thought that's what you meant by that just had to ask
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It's finished, what's everybody think?
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Question, How'd you cut your springs and how long did it take? How much did you cut off and did you cut the top of bottom? I bought lowering springs but it just isn't the drop I want, so, I figured I'd cut my stock ones just cause and throw those on to see if I like the better. Yours is lowered perfectly. And I love the chrome stock wheels! Looks nice!
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Question, How'd you cut your springs and how long did it take? How much did you cut off and did you cut the top of bottom? I bought lowering springs but it just isn't the drop I want, so, I figured I'd cut my stock ones just cause and throw those on to see if I like the better. Yours is lowered perfectly. And I love the chrome stock wheels! Looks nice!
I cut 1 and 1/8 coil off the front and the back. The fronts I cut off at the bottom an the backs I cut off at the top. To do the whole thing taking em out an puttin em back in took me like an hour and a Half maybe two hours. An thanks I looked for these wheels for awhile and I had black ones just like them then broke one of the black ones and a friend had these so I bought them for $50 without caps
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Well they look great! And is there a reason you cut the tops off the backs and the bottoms on the fronts? Also, How is the ride? Is it still smooth? I heard cutting springs can make a ride pretty bumpy, and it didn't mess too much with your struts did it?
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Well they look great! And is there a reason you cut the tops off the backs and the bottoms on the fronts? Also, How is the ride? Is it still smooth? I heard cutting springs can make a ride pretty bumpy, and it didn't mess too much with your struts did it?
you cut it that way so that the springs can sit back in there spots. you'll see what i mean by that if you look at the control arms. as for ride you won't have a horrible ride. it's still close to stock with cut springs from my experiences.
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Well they look great! And is there a reason you cut the tops off the backs and the bottoms on the fronts? Also, How is the ride? Is it still smooth? I heard cutting springs can make a ride pretty bumpy, and it didn't mess too much with your struts did it?
Thanks again. And yea if you look at the back springs the coils get smaller at the bottom so you have to cut the tips and on the front the tops are flat so they fit in the spring pockets so you have to cut the bottom. And mines front rides just fine the back ride a lol rough but I think it just because my shocks are wasted. I'm buyin new ones Friday so ill let you know if it changes the ride. And it messed up the camber a lil bit but not much I think it's just because I need a front end alignment
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Awesome! Well thanks for the info! It was much helpful!
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Awesome! Well thanks for the info! It was much helpful!
Did you put the cut stockers back in yours?
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Not yet, When I get some free time I'm going to cut them and put them back in it to see if I like it. Right now I have Actual lowering springs but they didn't give me quite the drop I wanted. I want my car about another 1/2 inch to 1 inch lower. I want my fender wells almost perfectly flush with my wheels.
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I cut mine, 1.25 coils up front and 3/4 coil in back left ISOs in and brand new ones on the back..
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I cut mine, 1.25 coils up front and 3/4 coil in back left ISOs in and brand new ones on the back..
Your's looks great! Beautiful car. What did you use to cut the springs with? And not saying i'd lower it this much, but what is the most you can probably lower with cutting the springs? (How many coils is "too much")
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Your's looks great! Beautiful car. What did you use to cut the springs with? And not saying i'd lower it this much, but what is the most you can probably lower with cutting the springs? (How many coils is "too much")
2 coils is too much.. A metal table saw, my step dad works at the coop..
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I did 2 coils, no issues
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How much did it drop your car when you cut 2 coils off?
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I cut 2 coils of my stock fronts. Hrs in the back
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I cut 2 coils of my stock fronts. Hrs in the back
where are your clear corners from?
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Got then ooon ebay
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Got then ooon ebay
are they the $70 ones?
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I think i paid 80 somethin.. Dont remember the seller either but there should be a bunch on ebay.
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are they the $70 ones?
Got mine there too, make sure you seal them

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Got mine there too, make sure you seal them
what do you mean by seal them? and do you have a picture of them with the headlights and markers on?
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what do you mean by seal them? and do you have a picture of them with the headlights and markers on?
Silicone and co around were the lens meets the housing otherwise it will leak..
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Silicone and co around were the lens meets the housing otherwise it will leak..
hmm sorry but im still a little lost on where and how you seal it. but okay they look good on your car! so what is the housing and the lens exactly?
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hmm sorry but im still a little lost on where and how you seal it. but okay they look good on your car! so what is the housing and the lens exactly?
The clear (lens) part attached to the black housing part of the headlight is glued on but not a waterproof seal..
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Which is the top side of the rear springs the smaller coils or big coils
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