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Old 03-12-2014, 07:06 AM   #1
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Dual overhead cam? V6 2000.

Has anyone done it or have some experience with it? I would like to look into doing it but I'm not sure if it's worth doing as opposed to just buying a v8. My cars already got a ton of visual mods so I'm a little attached
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What dohc heads were you planning on using???...
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Old 03-12-2014, 09:36 AM   #3
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I'm not sure yet. This is going to be my first time building a motor up. I'm more looking for suggestions and yays or nays currentlt
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You would need different everything. The 3.8 is a pushrod motor.

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Ah. Okay. Well good to learn these things before I try to delve in.
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We have single cams. It's kinda like taking apart a simple wind up clock. I mark mine with white out on the timing chain, balancer, cam, and crank.
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But has the change been done? Is it possible?
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But has the change been done? Is it possible?
I have a 207/215 .050/.050 112 lsa cam for a future mod. You have to change the rocker arms if you get a decent cam, springs, retainers, and push rods to get perfect roller geometry. You need a tune also. It is a serious mod for serious mustang m-o-d-d-e-r-s. It takes a high level of mechanical knowledge to do this yourself.
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Cool, I'm wanting to have some fun with it. A friend of mine told me he switched his from single to dual overhead cams I never asked how
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3 things come to mind
1 he is from Colorado.......smoking that GOOD! GOOD!
2 he does not know what he is talking about
3 he is a master engineer
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Cool, I'm wanting to have some fun with it. A friend of mine told me he switched his from single to dual overhead cams I never asked how
He lied. It's not feasible at all. He's probably full of it.
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Alright. So going with what I'm given. What would be the best cam build bang for buck
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three post up, samuelsmith, posted a good one
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you could just get a DOHC 6er and drop it in
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I have a 207/215 .050/.050 112 lsa cam for a future mod. You have to change the rocker arms if you get a decent cam, springs, retainers, and push rods to get perfect roller geometry. You need a tune also. It is a serious mod for serious mustang m-o-d-d-e-r-s. It takes a high level of mechanical knowledge to do this yourself.
*218/226 .5/.5 110lsa*
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Forget building your sixxer or dropping a DOHC v6 in (unless it's the 3.7 cyclone) just drop in the 4.6 2v and mod that one.
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David!!! nice to see you my friend!
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2 stangz it's not worth the money to swap, buy another car if you want a V8..

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Forget building your sixxer or dropping a DOHC v6 in (unless it's the 3.7 cyclone) just drop in the 4.6 2v and mod that one.
Its a better feeling you get when you beat someone with a V6, let alone the feeling you get when you lose to one!
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*218/226 .5/.5 110lsa*
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185/194 .443/.445 112LCA 110I
I KNOW YOU TOLD ME 110 , BUT 4.2 specks say it is 112 LCA. I was going to pm you back about that, but I am kind of confused. I don't know the difference in lca and lsa. I was kind of confused. I understand ,(LOBE SEPARATION ANGLES) (LOBE CENTER LINE ANGLE) I know lsa basically is how long the valve is open.
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I thought they were 112lsa cores too, that's why I chose it as a base, but the grinder said its 110 and same with another cam from a 4.2 that I just sent in, both 110lsa.

I don't know where you keep getting that duration from though lol
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Lsa is the separation from intake to exhaust valve
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I thought they were 112lsa cores too, that's why I chose it as a base, but the grinder said its 110 and same with another cam from a 4.2 that I just sent in, both 110lsa.

I don't know where you keep getting that duration from though lol
Advanced noob mistake LOL
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Eh doesn't hurt anything, plus makes it cam harder which is a plus
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David, the cam in your sig: what is the operating range. Too big for a daily driver with 410 gears. I know on a v8 that cams duration would be a good bottom end and great midrange. Just our smaller cubes was why I was wondering
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David, the cam in your sig: what is the operating range. Too big for a daily driver with 410 gears. I know on a v8 that cams duration would be a good bottom end and great midrange. Just our smaller cubes was why I was wondering
According to comp 1800-6200, I can say that the peak is very true, but with a stall and gears I can't speak for low end much haha I daily drove the car for a while and had no problems, still gets ~20mpg average too. New cam is gonna be a lot bigger! 226/234 blower cam ftw
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If he had a 4.6 sohc V8, he could of swapped some 4.6 dohc heads on it.
The 3.8 is a pushrod engine, simpler and cheaper to swap cams with. If it was dohc you'd be spending $4000+ just for cams. With a pushrod engine it'll be closer to $1000 or cheaper for the whole kit(lifters, pushrods etc...)
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$4000

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hell I don't think Luis even charges $900 for 4V cams, install isn't that bad on top of it
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well, from compcams it's $1300 for just the cams.
it's usually $300 for one cam, if it's a pushrod.

So it's still pretty expensive to go with dohc, I'm not really seeing any benefits of OHC, unless it's an inline 4 or 6 cylinder, then'd i'd probably want sohc.
OHC engine also weight more, so unless you built it to rev beyond the limits of a pushrod(which can be pretty high if built right) it would be better just to keep the stock V6 heads, and probably port them later on.
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I believe this has went past way off topic lol
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