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Old 09-01-2014, 03:44 PM   #1
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new front brakes

I need new front pads and rotors I want to get something with better than stock stopping power and something I wont have to worry about fading. Some people are telling me you have to get pads and rotors that work good together. I saw some stuff on rockauto at good prices but I didn't know if they were any good. They have stuff on AM for a lot more but it may be a lot better. Someone said motorcraft pads and rotors are pretty good any suggestions on brands or anything?
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Hawk HPS pads if you want better stopping power, as well as stainless brake lines for a more firm pedal feel. With stock suspension and basic tires the rotors you choose will affect your braking performance very little.

I just upgraded my pads and rotors to a set of drilled and slotted rotors and Hawk HPS pads, soon i'll be getting Russell Stainless brake lines also.
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okay thanks! so the Hawk pads will go good with any rotor or should I get specific ones? Also I have HP summer tires on my car now
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They can go with any rotors. I got mine off EBay from Brake Motive. One of the few EBay parts I'll trust since I know a lot of people who run these rotors.


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well thanks for pointing me in the right direction ill do the hps pads and some rotors and at some point do the lines
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I got a nice brake kit from Speedconcepts. Brembo rotors, HPS pads included. Then separately got the 5 stainless steel brake lines to replace & some fresh Motorcraft HD DOT3 fluid. And a few "rebuild kits" that include rubber boots, bolts, clips, and the like.

LINK: Wilwood/brembo brake kits, Speed Concepts
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I'm running Hawk HPS pads with Powerslot rotors. My EBC Yellowstuff pads had more grip than these Hawks do though. As long as you don't buy cheap parts store rotors then you'll be fine. Are you doing serious enough braking that you experience fading?
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Mine are EBay rotors, look at the pics up there ^^^^^^^^^


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Yeah, I'm just saying the parts store rotors are pieces of crap (Duralast, Napa Premium, etc.) The shop I work at has had to send back tons of rotors for runout issues brand new, they get installed and we test drove the vehicle only to have a bad vibration when braking.
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Yea i wouldn't trust any of those. I got Brake Motive ones, they have a pretty good rep for rotors.
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I've used e-bay "PowerStop" rotors before, great pieces, no rust, 4 years now & minimal wear.
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I'm running Hawk HPS pads with Powerslot rotors. My EBC Yellowstuff pads had more grip than these Hawks do though. As long as you don't buy cheap parts store rotors then you'll be fine. Are you doing serious enough braking that you experience fading?
I do some auto cross not that often like once or twice a year but I have had brake fade but I had cheap pads and rotors
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I do some auto cross not that often like once or twice a year but I have had brake fade but I had cheap pads and rotors
Good pads and stainless brake lines will fix that right up.
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are power stops pretty good? they are on rock auto drilled and slotted. good idea to get them or not??
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Good pads and stainless brake lines will fix that right up.
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are power stops pretty good? they are on rock auto drilled and slotted. good idea to get them or not??
I personally don't like drilled and slotted rotors. The only reason my car has some on the rear is cause I got them with my IRS. Drilled and slotted rotors tend to crack because they dissipate the heat too fast and end up cracking from the rapid heating up and cooling down.
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so what would you think I should get for rotors? just motorcraft replacements or is there a high performance non drilled and slotted?
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so what would you think I should get for rotors? just motorcraft replacements or is there a high performance non drilled and slotted?
For autocross I would just get a blank rotor, it's up to you on brand. I'm running Power Slot rotors with no issues but the trade off is that you lose surface area for your pads to grab when you add slotted or drilled/slotted rotors. A lot of it is personal preference. I had a buddy running the Hawk Quiet Slots on his Evo and he liked them. But he got them mostly because they were a rally quiet slotted rotor.
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so pretty much any blank rotor will do? wont have to worry about fade?
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so pretty much any blank rotor will do? wont have to worry about fade?
As long as you have a pad designed for the heat range and some DOT 4 fluid with SS lines then you won't need to worry about fancy rotors as much. I know some of the local guys to me road course their cars on blank rotors with no issues. Auto cross has such a quick track that blank rotors will be fine.
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so would hawk hps be a good pad from what i hear it would be. does it have the heat rang? can you do dot 4 fluid with stock lines because im waiting to do the ss lines
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I honestly couldn't tell you what it's like racing on those pads. I would assume they're good seeing as they one of Hawks top street pads. My buddy liked them when he did a track day with his Evo, but he never gave me a review on them. I've only used mine on the streets and I rarely ever need to brake hard. Yes you can do DOT 4 with factory lines
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okay thank you so much for all the info im just getting into brakes so just learning all i can before i buy
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That doesn't really solve the whole brake fade issue
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to put dot 4 in my system do I have to bleed the system of the dot 3 and add dot 4 as you go or do you have to flush the brake system then replace it with the dot 4
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to put dot 4 in my system do I have to bleed the system of the dot 3 and add dot 4 as you go or do you have to flush the brake system then replace it with the dot 4
Basically you grab a turkey baster and suck all the fluid out of your reservoir, fill it back up with DOT 4, and then bleed the crap out of the brakes to get the DOT 3 out. It might be a good idea to get two bottles (depending on how big they are) to make sure you don't run out in the middle of the process.
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so would hawk hps be a good pad from what i hear it would be. does it have the heat rang? can you do dot 4 fluid with stock lines because im waiting to do the ss lines

I'll let you know how the pads work this weekend hopefully. I just switched over to Dot4 and HPS pads with my new rotors. So I'll see how the stopping power is. I'm waiting for my SS lines to come in though, but still hoping to test them out at the mountain roads this weekend.


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