So AM says the HR SS Springs coupe will give a 1.7 front drop and 1.6 rear drop...will that go for the V6 as well? Because the V6 was lighter than the V8 so how much low would the V6 go? If the V6 only goes 1.4 or 1.5 is there really a need for camber plates then because it's a V6 and not a GT? What do you think guys?
Or would this actually give a drop as advertised for the V6's 99-04?
Have you ever seen CompOrange's car with the Tein S-Techs? They are an advertised 2.3" front and 2" rear on the GT, when he installed them on his car the front sat higher than the rear due to the weight difference.
No, they are correct. He has it wrong. Weight of the car DOES matter.
What happens if you sit on the hood of your car, notice it sink down a bit, or you put a ton of stuff in your trunk. It'll sink down a bit. That is the exact thing that is happening. Less weight means the spring pushes the body of the car up just a little higher than the other car with more weight.
So a V8 that weighs more than a V6 given that they have the same exact springs, the V8 will push the springs down a bit. Only way you prevent that is if the spring is super stiff. But pretty much every "lowering spring" on the market is the same as far as stiffness. If you really want to get creative you need coilovers.
My coilovers are AT LEAST twice as stiff as stock springs (stock springs in my car were about 650#, my coilovers are 375# but thats a different measurement. if you look at them at the same measurement my coilovers are around 1100-1300# in the traditional measurement), but they are also adjustable, and i can get different height springs. So there is a lot of playing around i can do with it.
Especially after i plan on taking at least 200 pounds off the nose of the car in the future, it all does make a difference.
Ever seen a car with no engine in it? Talk about 4x4 wheel gap.
Nope its mainly just quite literally how tall the spring is, thats why you can cut your stock springs shorter instead of buying aftermarket springs to save money. But I don't really recommend cutting them, just get any after market springs that are made for 99-04 mustang coupes (v6,Gt). dont get into the brand names either, I bought random ass amazon springs that I dont even know what the name of them was, and they worked great lol. 1.6 dropped in the front and 2.0 inches in the back
The height of the spring is the main factor. I do know for a fact the H&R Super Sports will lower the car the advertised amount and some. I have them on my 03 and the front is over 2" and the rear is ~1.8". This is without all isos in the front and X2 ball joints, and one iso removed in the rear.
At first it appeared they only dropped the car 1.5" but once they settled it came right in. I couldn't be happier. They are a bit stiffer than stock but the handling improvements are worth it.
Damn that looks sexy!
You running CC plates on it? I'm buying the springs this weekend and getting the cc plates next week. Can't wait to install them! Also what do you think about getting longtubes? Would it clear?
I'm getting a new exhaust set up and definitely want long tubes and an off road H lol
Btw I thought the springs were only a 1.7 drop in the front. How are you getting over 2''?? Does removing the iso's give it that much of a drop?
Yes! I forgot to add that. Go with Maximum Motorsports 4 bolt plates, nothing else. They are a damn fine product and are made in the USA which is always nice. The shop I went to for the alignment said he could've got the car to spec, even with the H&R SS springs, and I could've probably just used camber bolts, but it's nice to have the plates on and they can be useful for another application in the future.
I've heard both good and bad about running longtubes with a drop like that. Some guys don't have any problems, somd do. I really think it depends on the roads/driving style more than anything. I say leave isos in and you'll have not problems with the longtube clearance.
The X2 ball joints I installed come with a spacer to "maintain" the ride height, so I left that out which lowered the car another ~.5", bringing the front drop just over 2". If your isos, aren't terribly worn leaving them out might net you another .25-.375". Mine were somewhat worn, so I think more of the added drop came from the ball joints.
Not enough money and I don't want too much of a drop. Living in the dangerous roads in the tri state area with a car that has more than 2'' drop is not a good idea. The potholes here are ridiculous
Wait now I am confused
So the HR SS are not advertised for the 6 and will give a 1.3-1.5 drop correct? I dont get it. Then what about the Eibach springs? Ive seen the ones specifically only for v6s. They are 1.5. I compared the HR SS on a 6 to a Eibach for a 6 and HR was much lower...
The main point at first is that since the V6 has less weight on the nose the springs won't compress as much like they would on a GT. Probably around .2-.3 less than it would on a GT.
I am not getting it installed from a shop. Crooks want 300$ from me where it's just a one or two hour job. I'm doing it with a friend. It isn't hard at all
From what i hear the alignment can be a total pain. How do you plan on adjusting? I've never done it myself but would love to learn how. Is there a pattern in what to adjust? I.E. caster, camber, toe? My buddy said he can get fairly close with sting, blocks and a tape but never as good as they can get at a shop with the machine..
one day i hope to have something pretty damn witty here
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