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Old 03-28-2015, 12:15 AM   #1
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Decision!! Help!!!!

Just got a 2002 v6. Thinkin about either fixing this one up for looks and getting a 2005 for racing or should I do it the other way around? Which would be easier to fix up for racing? This is my first mustang so I'm kinda wondering what long time mustang owners would recommend. ThanksClick image for larger version

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Old 03-28-2015, 02:59 AM   #2
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Well I wouldn't get a V6 for racing, even if it's a newer model. If you want something for street fights or drags get a nice GT and put a some money into the engine/wheels. To get a V6 to that level you would have to dump so much money into it


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Please define "racing".

Road course, strip, just a solid car for some light to light runs?
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Light to light and possible road course


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I have priced a turbo for mine plus exhaust headers plugs etc etc and I was thinkin the beffed up v6 because if someone popped the hood or asked I wanted to say v6 and them underestimate it


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Well you can certainly do that. But to do it right it will cost a bit. I wouldn't randomly pick out a turbo off a performance site and slap it on your car. You'll be on borrowed time if you do get it running right.

TMA used to offer the bet single/twin turbo kits for our cars. I don't know if they are still in business but used kits do pop up on forum occasionally.

It really comes down to what your goals are. Do you absolutely want to have a turbo v6? To have a reliable performing car will cost much more after engine/drivetrain, suspension and braking mods are done. I am no expert when it comes to autocross but I would think a turbo wouldn't be the first FI choice.

As a 3.8 v6 owner, I would advise selling the car if you aren't attached to it and have big performance oriented goals. Take the money from the sale and put it towards a better starting platform. Not sure what the market is like by you but here 96-01 cobras are really cheap and for under 7k you're getting a 4V that in stock form produces over 100whp more than the 3.8. Those engines are capable of 300whp after bolt ons/tune...it would take FI and full supporting bolt ons to make those numbers with a 3.8.

I was in the same boat for a little while, I wanted my 3.8 to be the "underdog", but then I realized what the real cost would be.
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Thanks. I'm thinking about just keeping this one a doing a restore so it looks nice and I may go ahead and do a different exhaust system to have it sound better then get a 5th gen to fix up for racing seeing as they have a better platform for racing


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Honestly the 05-10 4.0's aren't much better, even compared to the 99-04 3.8's.

If you really want to mod a v6, save up and get a 2011+.
If that's not an option due to price look into a SN95 Cobra or new edge v8.

Some minor bolt ons like exhaust, cheap CAI and a tuner will give the 3.8 some pep and make it more lively to drive. The tuner will help the shift points a ton on the 4R70W. I have those 3 things done to mine and it woke the car up noticeably compared to stock.
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Although the 4.0's sound good, and what, 10more h.p.? With all the timing chains and 2 camshafts, I say stick with the 3.8/4.2...
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Looking at getting a 2007 Shelby GT500 that way it's worth the money to fix up


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Old 03-30-2015, 05:42 PM   #11
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If you really want a sleeper get a 99-04 gt and throw the engine away and get a coyote motor and keep it naturally aspirated.
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If you really want a sleeper get a 99-04 gt and throw the engine away and get a coyote motor and keep it naturally aspirated.

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Some stage one and some two ups 10-1, on a 90 tbird 3.8 sc its best cheap and so far the only bad thing I hear is they used to overheat. I have a custom 4 core radiator made and so far no problems really scoots too with just the motor swapped I was getting low 14s on the 1/4. In my 95.


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Well she is here now. Cut the exhaust off at cats to run straight pipe from there back, BBK CAI and BBK 68mm throttle body, plus the plasti dip on the car. Love it now so definitely not getting rid of any time soon.


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Well she is here now. Cut the exhaust off at cats to run straight pipe from there back, BBK CAI and BBK 68mm throttle body, plus the plasti dip on the car. Love it now so definitely not getting rid of any time soon.


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Would love to hear the straight pipes.


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I'll upload a video tomorrow of em


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Well she is here now. Cut the exhaust off at cats to run straight pipe from there back, BBK CAI and BBK 68mm throttle body, plus the plasti dip on the car. Love it now so definitely not getting rid of any time soon.


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HOW IS THE 3.8 WITH NO MUFFLERS
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Sounds terrible tbh
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I like it. Getting a video in a bit after work for yall to hear


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Many cars sound decent at idle and reved when park but when its going down the road it sounds like a 4cyl ford ranger with a straight pipe
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This is my car at my shop at idle before the straight pipe

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Well I wouldn't get a V6 for racing, even if it's a newer model. If you want something for street fights or drags get a nice GT and put a some money into the engine/wheels. To get a V6 to that level you would have to dump so much money into it


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I would get a 1994-2004 V6 Mustang for racing. I did exactly that. On purpose.

There are other forms of "racing" aside from sprinting as fast as possible down 1320' of straight asphalt or beating some riced-out Civic across an intersection. There are some classes of SCCA wheel-to-wheel road racing where a 3.8 Mustang would theoretically be a competivie car, because it would be bringing the most cubic inch displament to the party along with the most low end and midrange torque and a faily flat power curve from a relatively understressed engine. I do okay in mine in autocross and I have just as much fun in it on a road racing course as I have had in any other car I have owned.

At one time in my life, I had a Porsche 924S and a '92 5.0 LX Mustang at the same time and was active in a number of Porsche and Mustang clubs. I got track time in both cars and autocrossed both of them. The lap times I ran at Willow Springs Raceway in both of those cars were pretty much the same in spite of the mighty "five point slow" having a pretty significant power to weight ratio advantage and whole lot more low end and midrange torque.

I went 3.8 V6 on purpose and so far, I have zero regret for doing so. The more seat time I get, the happier I am with my choice.

But I ain't a drag racer. Never have been. Not likely to change. For the kind of racing I'm in to, 215 hp /242 ft/lbs torque at the crank in a car which, with some weight taken out and replaced with chassis stiffening and a roll cage, weighs 3,250 pounds with me in it is all the power I need.
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Hey man think about the decision you're getting into first.


I thought I wanted to make my 3.8 "quick" as well, but realize these cars out of the factory came out dog ****, and it's a disgrace. I don't know what the hell was Ford thinking when they came out with the 3.8, and the SN95 3.8 is even worse than the New Edge with its constant head gasket problems.


I'm not dissing your car. I have a 3.8 too. And while it is awesome to look at it, it is not fast nor ever will be fast. You have to put a lot of $$$ and time into this car. Do you think it's worth it? I thought it was...until I lost interest completely, and realized I should've bought a New Edge GT when I had the chance too.


My car has a tune, full exhaust (O/R H, Long Tubes), and a CAI. Sounds loud, and beautiful. But all that bark, no bite. I will be giving the car regular maintenance, and will keep her till she finally blows out, but I will not put a damn cent ever again to make it "fast". Not on these cars.
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