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Old 08-05-2008, 01:57 PM   #1
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Cool 302 vs 351 . . . .

The difference in displacement between 281ci & 245ci is 13% - which is LESS than the difference between a 351 & a 302.

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Re: 302 vs 351 . . . .

So whats your point
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The difference in displacement between 281ci & 245ci is 13% - which is LESS than the difference between a 351 & a 302.

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But it's a 36ci vs. a 49ci difference. At 1.1 hp/ci it could easily be a 40hp vs. 54 hp difference. WTF are we talking about again?
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Re: 302 vs 351 . . . .

depends if you are comparing a bored/stroked 302 to a 351

its not about the solely the cubic inch, its about air flow too.im not arguing the v6 point in two threads, ill merge them if that where you are going with this.
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So whats your point
A little understanding.

The 245ci is to a 281ci . . . . what a 302ci is to a 351ci (at least in the difference in displacement - the 245's weight bias advantages not with standing).

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Re: 302 vs 351 . . . .

this a continuation of the other thread arguing v6 power, take a stock 302 and a stock 351 and race them in the same body car.....this only reinforces the points im making in the other thread.
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this a continuation of the other thread arguing v6 power, take a stock 302 and a stock 351 and race them in the same body car.....this only reinforces the points im making in the other thread.
Sorry, I haven't seen the other thread.

Would you post a link?

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Re: 302 vs 351 . . . .

So whats your point?
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Sorry, I haven't seen the other thread.

Would you post a link?

Thanks.

http://www.mustangevolution.com/forum/t35432/

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Ok - just don't let it happen again . . . . (jk)



There must be a lot of insecurity? v8er's "trolling" on the v6 forum . . . . (jk?)



Seriously, your thread & points are appreciated. (No jk)

are you sure you havent seen it , and that it wasnt what spured you idea for this thread?
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Re: 302 vs 351 . . . .

I vote option 2
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. . . . are you sure you havent seen it . . . .
I didn't realize that was the thread you were refering to.

I don't think that thread was the basis for this one? Maybe a contributing factor - I don't know. Your initial response was closest to my thoughts (I guess which weren't very well articulated).

Since I got my latest Mustang last month, I've been reading about guys with v6's who are taking abuse from guys with v8's - to the point where they are considering selling their cars or pursuing power-adders or an engine swap.

My analogy of the 351 vs 302 was primarly that - 302 guys didn't take abuse from 351 guys - & there is a greater difference in displacement between those engines than the 281 - 245.

Owning a Mustang should be an enjoyable experience, not one filled with confrorontation, doubt & shame.

Personally, I like all Mustangs . . . . 140ci to Boss 429 & beyond. Electric ones, diesels & smaller displacement ones too.

Other Mustang owners aren't the enemy.

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Re: 302 vs 351 . . . .

I agree, other owners are not the enemy, misrepresented information is though...and that is what is going on in the other thread right now because there is no proof of anything.

I currently own an I4 and a V8 and a V0 mustang that will be a V6 in the next few months. I'm after certain power out of each, and it doesn't matter if one has a 2 cyl delete option and the other a 4 cyl delete. What does matter though is that we present real, accurate data on this site so it doesn't turn into a ricer site claiming 50 hp from a cat back swap.

As for the 302 guys not getting ragged by the 351 guys, it's because they are both V8s. Bigger has always been better in the male mind. As such, many view the V8 as the holy grail of mustang options no matter what the displacement. Those are definitely short sighted people that have not seen the light of day...kind of like the video from this years mustang week where a cobra chased a 4 banger fox down the entire 1/4 mile running 133 mph to the 4 bangers 140+ pass.
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Re: 302 vs 351 . . . .

first off i see that you are new and you havent see the thread that started all of this,it is an argument of whether a stock v6 makes more power with an eaton than an 04 cobra, it is not about bashing v6s, so that you are aware, im affiliated with a local performance shop, im not trying to bash v6s, i just want to know how they are going to prove thier theorys that go against everything that i have learned by expierience.

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Re: 302 vs 351 . . . .

it seems this thread was created to reinforce the arguments in the v6 thread, we do not need two threads for this, if you want to argue aver the 302 and 351, be my guest but if it turns into a v6 discussion and starts to run parallel to the other thread, i will delete it...next statement about a v6 comparison in this thread will result in it being closed.
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Re: 302 vs 351 . . . .

What ever happen to the procharger vs m112 argument ?
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it seems this thread was created to reinforce the arguments in the v6 thread . . . . next statement about a v6 comparison in this thread will result in it being closed.
V6 Mustang - "V6 Mustang Forum for discussing and finding information on all V6 Mustangs." ME

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Yes I'm new.

True - I don't know the personal histories here.

I realize that my initial post(s) on this thread was not as clear as it/they should have been.

351/302 was intended as an analogy to the 281/245 - but had nothing to do with another thread.

Even though I have attempted to clarify my intentions - you keep telling me that they are otherwise. I'm finding this a little disconcerting . . . .
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x2. It seems there are 3-4 threads about one topic and its getting ridiculous to follow. Keep it in one thread please.
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V6 Mustang - "V6 Mustang Forum for discussing and finding information on all V6 Mustangs." ME

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Yes I'm new.

True - I don't know the personal histories here.

I realize that my initial post(s) on this thread was not as clear as it/they should have been.

351/302 was intended as an analogy to the 281/245 - but had nothing to do with another thread.

Even though I have attempted to clarify my intentions - you keep telling me that they are otherwise. I'm finding this a little disconcerting . . . .
That's understandable sometimes things get crossed over the great wide internet. The best thing you can do is not to assume anyone will understand something if you leave it out and to explain yourself in detail. It avoids a lot of confusion and drama.
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Re: 302 vs 351 . . . .

351-or 302 discussion...
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That's understandable sometimes things get crossed over the great wide internet. The best thing you can do is not to assume anyone will understand something if you leave it out and to explain yourself in detail. It avoids a lot of confusion and drama.
Thanks Brent.

I've beeen told my sense of humor is "British" ie: dry - or "German" ie: non-existant. When I first posted the thread, it did make sense to me . . . .

I wasn't looking to create or further drama - that's not what Mustangs are about for me.

Please feel free to delete this thread with no hard feelings on my part.

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Re: 302 vs 351 . . . .

We'll close it and consider it done.
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Re: 302 vs 351 . . . .

i wasnt trying to be a jerk, i just dont see the point in having multiple threads turn into the same argument..i was leaving it open for anybody to talk about 302 or 351 no hard feelings..feel free to join our other discussion though
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