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Old 12-24-2015, 01:30 PM   #1
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3.8 to 5.0

sup guys need advice or guidance, if you can help with comments, ideas and opinions it would be greatly appreciated.
I was looking it investing on my 3.8 to make get more horses, however adding costs it almost adds up to the same cost of a 5.0 engine. what would our inputs and thoughts on this would be. which engine would be better? or is it a good idea pros and cons.

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How much cash do you have? And do you have another vehicle to drive during the swap?

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With the swap are you accounting for engine accessories and other parts needed to swap engines? With engine swaps unless you have a Donner car it's the little things that Nickel and dime you to death.


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With the swap are you accounting for engine accessories and other parts needed to swap engines? With engine swaps unless you have a Donner car it's the little things that Nickel and dime you to death.


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yea, about 10k
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its about 10 k easy and more since that covers the motor etc.
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Old 12-25-2015, 11:20 PM   #7
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Don't swap, sell what you have and buy a V8. You'll spend less money and it's turnkey. Try for a 99-04 or a 96-98 that's been PI swapped. Or if you want the pushrod the 94/95 are nice but they are PIGS in stock form.
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If you have 10k I would consider looking at a coyote mustang. I just looked a 2011 for 17,500. Just something to consider.


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If he has $10k another $7500-$12000 for a nice Coyote is probably a little steep. For $10k look at a 4V or maybe try to find a real good deal on an earlier 3V to get the upgraded S197 chassis.

Or find a 94/95 pushrod or a PI car for REAL cheap and do bolt ons for a nice 12-13 second street car that'll get 20mpg and not cost a fortune to buy/insure. IMO the 94/95 Cobras are hidden gems and superb examples with real low miles are out there for his price point.
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what do you mean by a 99-04 or a 96-98 that's been PI swapped? sorry kind of new to the mustang world.
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A 99-04 GT or a 96-98 with the PI heads/cams/intake off a 99-04. For $10k you might be able to find a good 4V as well. Or a real nice 94/95 Cobra for sure but those need a bunch of bolt ons and a tune right off the bat.
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I'd also recommend going for something newer as most banks will write a loan on it as a "new" car these days. 10K plus what your current car is worth and 2-3% interest might make the payments within a few dollars.

The newer V8s are such a drastic improvement over the old ones. It's more money now, but trust me when I say that your conversion project will eat up months of your time and mountains of patience. And for sure come in over budget. The V8 is ready to go immediately and retains its value as well. You'll maybe get half of the conversion cost out of your current car, if that, when you sell it. The V8 is easy to sell and even in stock form will do what you want.
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I tell ppl over and over and over again when they come in with a $5-$8k 2V Mustang they just got and start asking "what will it take to get to Coyote power?!" and the answer is always legit "more money that it would cost to sell yours and buy a 11-14 GT".

$6k for the car (guesstimate)
$2500 for a basic forged shortblock
$4000 for the heads/cams/intake
$2000 for full longtube stainless exhaust
$2500-$5k for suspension depending on what you do
$800 for a SCT tuner and a good local dyno tune session
$1800 for a basic 26 spline T45 or 3650 that'll take about 600hp
$1500-$2k for random misc stuff like clutch/flywheel/shifter/cosmetics etc...
$1200 wheels and tires
$5k for a supercharger and fuel system

If you are paying labor for all this... prepare thy anus...

I'm forgetting some other stuff I'm sure. And yes the Coyote will need some of these bolt ons too but nothing as drastic and it'll STILL be cheaper.
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Yea just buy a 5.0, I thought about doing the switch cause you would fly with a 5.0 in the new edge, but unless you have tons of money to spend on it, id just buy a 5.0.
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5.0 swaps aren't as easy and black and white as some make it out to be...

For your budget, which we don't actually know, assuming 10k, and staying in the Fox4 SN95-new edge platform:

1. <100k mile N/A cobra or Mach 1 - exhaust, intake, gears, tune
2. 94-95 5.0 Cobra - bolt ons, suspension, supercharger

Either will get you a solid 300-330 rwhp 12-13 sec street car that is fun but won't break the bank.

If you have another ~10k or can finance 2011+ coyote all day.
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