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Old 08-09-2008, 10:31 AM   #1
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M90 on a 04 V6 stang

What all do i need to put this M90 on! i keep hearing about having to switch to a single port but where would i BUY one at? or get one made at? then ppl keep saying ill loose power by switching but then i hear they make some single ports nicer than split ports! im puuting this damn on one way or another i jusrt need to know how lol! your help is means alot! thanks
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Re: M90 on a 04 V6 stang

you need the complete top side of the engine, heads,lower intake, blower and all the piping.
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excuse me for being a lil slow but im just learning engines rite now! whats the lower intake? i have the kit that came off a thunder bird! so i don't need to get the single port? i have the intercooler and stuff! the above pic is what im workin with! what else do i need?
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Re: M90 on a 04 V6 stang

You need a LOT more. Itd be easier and cheaper to sell what you have and just buy a whole Supercoupe engine.

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like how much more u talkin?
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like how much more u talkin?
Lower intake manifold
Heads
Gaskets

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The stock fuel system is a bit better, but I honestly wouldn’t risk keeping this stock either. You must switch back to the return style fuel system anyway (255lph walbro is good). Of course, a tune is required. As we all know, split port mustangs have different manifolds and heads that offer much better flow over OEM single ports. In order to get the M90 to work on your car, you MUST go back to single port. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing, since there are several companies that offer single port heads that compete with PORTED split port heads. Big valve single-port heads would be a great improvement in flow over your stock split port engine’s. The only other setback of the single port design was the maximum throttle body size (60mm) that was limited by the upper intake manifold. Thankfully, the blower replaces this manifold and the inlet plenum connects to the throttle body. Even the stock, poorly flowing, 89-93 design plenum can be ported to accommodate a 70mm TB.

So yeah modifying your fuel system, getting single port heads, gaskets, tune, fuel pump, injectors, your looking at another 1-2grand minimum? Better thing would have been to find a COMPLETE motor and swap it in.
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were can i get this single port and lower intake stuff at?
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Re: M90 on a 04 V6 stang

we have a complete supercoupe motor with blower and everything for 600+shipping, it nees to be freshened as it has set up for a while
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are u selling any parts! i need the single port and the lower intake and some other stuff
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are u selling any parts! i need the single port and the lower intake and some other stuff
Something tells me this could turn into a disaster...
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lol yea bro im really dont know what these parts our! i gotta get my parts and i have some car experts helpin me put it on! ive been explained different ways about this single port lower intake whatever thing! please can u explain it to me!! u seem like u know alot
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we have a complete supercoupe motor with blower and everything for 600+shipping, it nees to be freshened as it has set up for a while
No you don't, it's going in the 81..remember.
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$$$$$$ better get it before the end of august...im not parting it out, everything goes together,unless rob wants to part with the heads and intake to run a m112 but he has dibbs as of now.

btw to get the single port you speak of, you need both cylinder heads for the soupercoupe or older mustang, they have single ports intead of split ports, maybe you could trade heads with rob and rob could go m112.
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whoa! so if i just go with the m112 i want have to do all this single port bull****? what would i have to do if i got with the m112? ur help would be great! dont know to much about these supercharger or engines all together! just now learning lol
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$$$$$$ better get it before the end of august...im not parting it out, everything goes together,unless rob wants to part with the heads and intake to run a m112 but he has dibbs as of now.

btw to get the single port you speak of, you need both cylinder heads for the soupercoupe or older mustang, they have single ports intead of split ports, maybe you could trade heads with rob and rob could go m112.
Well, I can garantee you you won't have the money from me by the end of august.

So, I guess if it sells, it sells. It's between 2 motors for the 81 right now.

Number one on the list is the 6 in question.

Number 2 is the couple of running 460s I have a shot at for $500....or a couple of unsure if the run 460s for $100.

So, if you sell it, then it will make my decision for me.
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Re: M90 on a 04 V6 stang

its still yours if you want it... id rather not have to ship it, i was joking about august considering...

the eaton swap is a kit, VSSStang will chime in and give more details but you wont have to do the single port swap.
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IF you do the m112 kit is 2800$ and you would need to get rid of all the parts you have for the m90.
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yea dont do the M90 the end results dont measure up. Do one of the custom M112 setups and push around 300rwhp~
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is this the heads i need?
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Those are single port heads, are they super coupe heads? Those are the ones I would use.
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FINALLY LOL, yea there from the sc! they got some miles on them though! so i got the lower intake and the heads! what else?
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Assuming that you have both heads. (what year s/c are they from btw?) in that shape I would say valve job and have them cleaned.

Oh man I forgot the rest of the check list:

-Roots blower
-SC blower top
-SC lower intake
-SC rear blower intake with SC TB
-Rear intake (from IC to lower intake)
-SC thermostat housing
-SC jackshaft pulley bracket
-SC PS pump bracket
-SC crank pulley
-SC water pump and pulley
-PS pump pulley (you can us your mustang pump)
-SC tensioner pulleys (all 3)
-if using the SC block/crank then use the 94-95 neutral balanced dampener with exeter gear, some dampeners off the F150 will work as well.
-if using the mustang block/crank then use you stock mustang dampener
-if using the SC block/crank then use the SC flywheel/flexplate
-if using the mustang block/crank then use the mustang flywheel/flexplate
-Mustang or SC starter will be fine, they are the same
-Mustang headers
-SC heads are better but Mustang heads would probably be fine (SC heads are supposedly a little stronger)
-SC injectors or equivalent plus matching MAF
-89-93 SC came with 30# injectors and 55mm MAF
-94-95 came with 36# injectors and 70mm MAF
-all cooling hoses
-SC thorttle cable
-SC throttle cable bracket
-MUSTANG EEC
-MUSTANG wiring harness
-wire to lengthen wiring harness connectors
-extra cooling hoses for custom work
-MUSTANG timing chain cover or 94-95 SC timing chain cover
-MUSTANG crank sensor
-MUSTANG or SC alt will work, MUSATNG better sicne it has the extra connect on it, but will work without it for the SC alt, need to change pulleys if using the Mustang Alt. I believe the Mustang alt is more powerful as well, not exactly sure.
-SC AC compressor
-custom AC lines
-custom air inlet needed
-SC intercooler should work, not sure how well the SC intercooler tubes will clear but they should
or use a custom IC setup
-Mustang motor mounts
-SC valve covers
-Mustang DIS module, don't need the SC one.
-SC oil cooler (not needed but good to have)
-Mustang radiator will work, but if using the SC IC then might be easier to us ethe SC rad its a little smaller though but works for the SC guys fine.
-Major tuning
-SC coil pack bracket
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I think you just ruined his day.
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lol no problem! ill find it! thanks for the list
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