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Old 03-17-2004, 06:40 PM   #1
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Ok informed ones, I just bought a couple new 2004 V6 Mustangs. One for me and one for my daughter. My dad is next. I guess getting nearly $7500 off the sticker was too much for me. Anyway, she's going in for mufflers on Friday. I've read most of your posts on mufflers. Here's were I'm at today. True duals behind the stock cats, H pipe made by the muffler shop, dynomax turbos and plain jane tail pipes like the stock v6 but two of them. What do you think? Will this combo feel like she lost some down low torque because the y pipe is gone? It's an automatic. I just want it to sound cool. I'd do flow masters but I'm afraid it would amplify that twangy v6 snarl. The turbos should subdue it. I'm not ever going to full hotrod it out. I've got my new ZX6RR to stomp the crap out of whatever I need to. My V6 Stang will never be asked to pull that duty. Any sounds clips of where I'm going here?
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Hey welcome to V6stangs. No you will not notice any loss in torque. I am not sure why that continues to spread on the forums but it is just a myth. Dynomax Turbos are sweet sounding That is what Roush use to use. Vipers, Prowlers iuse that muffler.
Flowmaster buzz and drone real bad at highway speeds I had them and took them off.
Unless you are going to do engine mods the H-pipe is not required but if you desire a H pipe nothing is stopping you.
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Thanks Danger Dude. I always get nervous before I start modifying stuff. It goes a long way back. I'm 47 but more of a kid than most people here. Don't ever totally grow up. I've owned and driven sprint cars and funny cars. I still have a blown 500 ci Keith Black Hemi sitting at my buddies shop from my funny car days. I'll never forget my high school friends 1974 Capri. It had the old 2300 in it. He put the clifford 4 barrel manifold on it, 390 cfm holly 4 barrel, big cam, trick ported head, trw pistons, headers and lots more. Then the funny part. He got his *** handed to him by a totally stock 1974 Capri. All that motor work and he left the stock 2.something gears in the rear end. What a bad combo that was. A motor that wanted to rev and gears for the salt flats. I've just seen too much stuff not work out right. I'm a friend of the guy that owns Gibson Exhaust. We put a stainless steel system on my old PT Cruiser and it was LOTS slower than stock. Not to mention you couldn't hear the stereo at freeway speeds. The PT lost too much back pressure. I ended up putting one of my extra Buell Super Trapp Muffler Cones on the back of that PT. It worked tons better with the extra back pressure. It looked pretty weird with this 2 foot stinger hanging out the back of it. Shawn Gibson couldn't believe it. I really love flow masters but I don't want to listen to my wife complain every time she rides in the Mustang. Thanks again for the reply.
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Hey I understand I am 43 and been car modding for over 20 years mostly Camaro's but I jumped ship and decided to get into mustangs. No you wont see any of the problems you had with the PT Cruiser. As for the Flows they droned so bad at Highways speeds about 2000 rpm up, then above 3000 rpm they would have a bad ricey buzz. I had the muffler shop take them off after 3 days and I had them install Dynomax Ultraflows on my car.
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And if your still wanting something like a Flowmaster that won't drone,or buzz, get Mac Flowpaths. Theres also Warlocks, ive heard are nice, you can uncap them when you want it loud, or just leave the caps in, I haven't heard any clips of those though. but of all the mufflers Flowpaths and Dynomax are the best sounding IMO
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And if your still wanting something like a Flowmaster that won't drone,or buzz, get Mac Flowpaths. Theres also Warlocks, ive heard are nice, you can uncap them when you want it loud, or just leave the caps in, I haven't heard any clips of those though. but of all the mufflers Flowpaths and Dynomax are the best sounding IMO
Did you read his post!!! This is for his car and his wife will be driving it. He is 47 he does not want to wake the dead, just give it a nice sound that will be acceptable for him and his wife. You have to remember people over 30 tend to want a nice sound but not be to obnoxious!!!!
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Then Dynomax turbos it is. I ran those on my 1978 Macho TA and liked them a lot. That was a fun car. Everybody just assumed it was slow being a 1978 Trans Am. Most were 16 second dogs. Not mine. Pontiac 455 super duty not the Olds 403. 4 speed, 4.11's, Ram Air IV Heads, Ram Air IV Cam, Hookers and 3" Tubing. That car sounded good and could back it up. Super low 12's corked up. My funnest race was against a new Lightning Ford back in the mid 90's. The guy even challenged me at the light. I wouldn't normally waste my time on a pickup. He ended up following me home and wanted to know what was done to the car. You can't always assume stuff. Now if I need a fast fix, I dig out one of my sportbikes. That's why I bought a V6. No point in a V8. Most of them really are not that fast. Fast is a 10 second quarter. Once you a Mustang to that point, it's not a practical daily driver. My ZX6RR does 78 mph in first at 16,000 rpm. 60 comes up in 3 seconds (some people claim 2.9). Why even try to make your Mustang quick? Take the $8000 that you would spend to make your GT quick (and a time bomb) and buy a sportbike that will run 10's all day stock. Just my 2 cents.
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I had a few Bikes I was a Suzuki fan. I had a Katana 1100 and a GSXR 1100 before I had kids and they were fast, my fastest car was a 1978 Z-28 with 600 RWHP and 750hp with a 150 shot of Nitrous. That car looked bone stock including the stock Z-29 rims. The only visible mods on the exterior were traction bars and the car was lowered.
Oh I also made the Hood scoop functional.
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Actually my wife doesn't drive it much. She prefers her new M3. I get the V6 Mustang (saved it from being a rental car), she gets the 2003 M3. You have to keep mama happy. I try to balance it out with all my motorcycles. The formula is: 2004 V6 Mustang + 2003 ZX6RR + 2000 TL1000R + 1999 R6 + 2002 1600 Roadstar = 2003 M3. I have more toys but her car costs about the same as all my stuff together. Her M3 is pretty hot though. I think 60 comes in 4.9 seconds. I pick on pimple faced kids in ratted out civics with it.
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Actually my wife doesn't drive it much. She prefers her new M3. I get the V6 Mustang (saved it from being a rental car), she gets the 2003 M3. You have to keep mama happy. I try to balance it out with all my motorcycles. The formula is: 2004 V6 Mustang + 2003 ZX6RR + 2000 TL1000R + 1999 R6 + 2002 1600 Roadstar = 2003 M3. I have more toys but her car costs about the same as all my stuff together. Her M3 is pretty hot though. I think 60 comes in 4.9 seconds. I pick on pimple faced kids in ratted out civics with it.

How do you like the TL 1000R I here it is a real mountain runner up here in the smokey Mountains

I like picking on pimple faces kids in my stang. They are always trying to picking on me. I had one come up after I embarrassed him and said " Nobody mods V6 mustangs"" HAHAHHAHHAHAHA
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Riverside huh?

You'll eventually see me sooner or later ;D
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How do you like the TL 1000R I here it is a real mountain runner up here in the smokey Mountains

I like picking on pimple faces kids in my stang. They are always trying to picking on me. I had one come up after I embarrassed him and said " Nobody mods V6 mustangs"" HAHAHHAHHAHAHA
I love the TL1000R. Tons of torque. I'd bet on the ZX6RR being able to take it though. The TLR weighs about 60 lbs more than the ZX6RR and only makes about 5 hp more. I'm in total amazement as to what's happened with the 600 cc class sportbikes in the last year. They should be illegal to sell to the public. 355 lbs, 125 HP at the crank, 112 at the wheel from a 600. These things are rocket ships. I raced a late model SS Camero by UCR last Sunday and it was a total joke. What a dog that thing was.
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Riverside huh?

You'll eventually see me sooner or later ;D
Ya, I live up in Canyon Crest. I'll be looking for a green mustang now. Mines a white plain jane job today but not for long. Duals tomorrow, gold rally stripes down the middle soon.
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I live in Lake Mathews. Traveling through Corona and Riverside on a daily basis
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I live in Lake Mathews. Traveling through Corona and Riverside on a daily basis
I have a battery plant in Corona and two in Georgia. We have one of those giant buildings that you can see from the west bound 91 on the south side after you go past McKinnley. Eibach Springs is right around the corner from me.
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I have a battery plant in Corona and two in Georgia. We have one of those giant buildings that you can see from the west bound 91 on the south side after you go past McKinnley. Eibach Springs is right around the corner from me.

So you take Magnolia to get to the plant then I'll jsut have to make a few more passes over there to see if I can see your car I work off of Lincoln, on the Northside side of the Freeway
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So you take Magnolia to get to the plant then I'll jsut have to make a few more passes over there to see if I can see your car I work off of Lincoln, on the Northside side of the Freeway
Coming from Riverside on the 91 to Corona, you would take the second McKinley exit that routes you under the freeway. When you go under the freeway there's a Carl's Jr there. The next street you come to is Sampson (right before you get to the RR tracks). Make a right on Sampson. We are a couple miles down on the right side. You can't see us from Magnolia. Actually you can if you look right (towards the 91) up Promanade (I think) as you go past the new Farmers Boy. Our plant has a dark red stripe on it. It's a big plant.
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Then yes, I know what building you're talking about And I still to this day hate those RR tracks in the afternoon. Either the metrolink or some damn freight train ALWAYS shows up.
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Then yes, I know what building you're talking about And I still to this day hate those RR tracks in the afternoon. Either the metrolink or some damn freight train ALWAYS shows up.
A lot of people use Sampson to dodge traffic. It parallels Magnolia on the north side of the tracks. If you continue west on it past US Battery (that's me) till it dead ends at Radio Road and go left on Radio over the tracks you end up at Magnolia or 6th at the Golf Driving Range. Good secret route. We manufacture 10,000 batteries per day from our three plants in the USA. We build batteries for Interstate Battery and sell to Yamaha, GM, Delphi and lots more. There's 5 of us that own US Battery. I'm the CFO here and only drive a humble V6 Mustang. I have the money to drive any car made but I'm not stupid. The $12,800 price was too hard to resist. I'm also a bike freak and get my speed fixes out of them. I guess I'm too lazy to force my V6 to be quick when I have a garage full of quick stuff already.
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i want an R6 so bad... maybe this summer when i can afford it

a bike would be so fun... its just here in kansas, theres no use for it for about 7 months out of the year, so its kind of worthless investment unless you can pay for it all at once
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A lot of people use Sampson to dodge traffic. It parallels Magnolia on the north side of the tracks. If you continue west on it past US Battery (that's me) till it dead ends at Radio Road and go left on Radio over the tracks you end up at Magnolia or 6th at the Golf Driving Range. Good secret route. We manufacture 10,000 batteries per day from our three plants in the USA. We build batteries for Interstate Battery and sell to Yamaha, GM, Delphi and lots more. There's 5 of us that own US Battery. I'm the CFO here and only drive a humble V6 Mustang. I have the money to drive any car made but I'm not stupid. The $12,800 price was too hard to resist. I'm also a bike freak and get my speed fixes out of them. I guess I'm too lazy to force my V6 to be quick when I have a garage full of quick stuff already.
Finally, a rich and wise businessman.. who doesnt have to have 6 half-million dollar cars is his garage!!! I thought only people like you existed in storybooks??

BTW, I know that "secret" road
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Well, I got her done Friday and I tried something different. I went to Scotty's Mufflers in San Bernardino. They were going to do turbos when we all came up with the idea of side tips like the Roush setup. They didn't have the turbos with the inlet and outlet on the same side which would have been ideal. The only mufflers that would fit were the Nascar Truck racing bullet mufflers. They did a killer job. Welds are tits. The Y pipe was eliminated and a H pipe was built after the cats. They used 1 3/4 from the cats to the mufflers so I would have some back pressure. These pipes exit in front of the rear tires. Here's the good part, we used the long flat tips like the SS Camero. It looks killer. I was a little afraid of melting the side skirt because there is only a little over a half inch clearance. I think I'm okay though. I got stuck on the 91 coming back from South Coast Plaza on Saturday and everything still looks okay. The pipes sound pretty funky though. I may have to add the turbos with the inlet and outlet on the same side and keep the bullet race mufflers as resonators. The car runs great. It has definitely gained both torque and hp. You barely touch the gas and it gets up to speed quickly. The downside is the sound. It is loud as crap if you hold it on the floor. Just cruising is fine but it reminds me of the Jungle Boat ride at Disney Land. When floored it sets of car alarms and sounds like some vintage full race Mercedes Gullwing from the 50's. I'm getting sort of use to it but I've noticed a lot of cops twisting their heads. I'll give it a few weeks.
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I'll take some. I don't own a digital camera personally but my company has a few of them. I'll get somebody out of my MIS Dept to take some shots. And to think that 15 years ago I built computers and laughed at my parents for not being able to program a vcr. That **** comes back to haunt you. Don't tease people.
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Dont tease people... or just keep up on the technology Cant wait for hte pice. Maybe I'll just have to schedule you a photo shoot
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You can drive by on your way to work sometime. I'm usually here by 7:15. It's the only white Mustang here. I park in one of the three reserved spots to the side of the front door. Like I said before, it looks good and very professional but it sounds sort of funky. It reminds my wife of my old Cessna 172 going down the freeway. I even hear prop wash myself. I am getting the desire to buy another plane from the stupid car. My kids think it sounds like the Jungle Cruise boat. I will say this, when you get into it people look. I'm sure it's going to get ticketed sometime. Our old neighbor had a mid 70's Ferrari Dino that had a V6 in it. I kind of get that impression from it. I just don't feel V8 from it. I stand by my original thought that a V6 should be heavily muffled to sound the best. Probably GT pull offs are the best idea. They would flow fine for a V6 and would probably trick most people. I may find a set down the road. This is just a little to weird as it stands.
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