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Old 07-03-2004, 02:24 AM   #1
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H-Pipes

Is the reason for the H pipes to be able to install the dual exhaust. Because I was looking a set that they had with the cat's and the H-pipes together.

Is that all I need for my single exhaust V6?
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Crossover Pipes (also known as Midpipes):

Y-pipe Tech:Y-Pipe
Your y-pipe is what comes right after your headers. Its the stock crossover pipe that they put on the car straight from the factory. The y-pipe is shaped just like a Y and what it does is route the dual exhaust (from the headers) into a single exhaust. It needs to be cut whenever installing true dual exhaust, though some do a ?fake? dual exhaust where the Y pipe is left intact and a backwards Y pipe is welded on to the back of the one in front, you will not gain much if any power with this type of setup and it is used mostly for the ?look? of real duals.
H-pipe Tech:
H pipes are used on v8 cars to equalize the pressure during their firing order.
Our v6's fire "evenly" because of this even firing order there is no need to equalize anything. So most people use H pipes for the sound it creates. Not for performance gains. Many people say it "removes" that popping sound.
V8 Firing Order: "1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8"
V6 Firing Order: "1-4-2-5-3-6"

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Everybody here that I have talked to says that an H-pipe is not needed on a V6. While I agree with that, I also think that you should get one. They aren't that expensive and they help in many ways. First it helps gas scavenging. Second it gives the car a nicer sound. Third it gives consistent and equal pressure to both sides of the engine. Now I know that they are already equal, but lets say you have a worn engine and a couple pistons are pumping out as much gas as the others. An H-pipe will keep the pressure the same in the exhaust system. Basically what I'm saying is that it's not needed but for the price, and the benefits, why not? if you go to a muffler shop and tell them that you want an H-pipe they will do it in about an hour, and it only costs about $60. g part of the exhaust. Often it is shiny chrome or polished steel.-Justang



Catted H-pipe Catted H-pipe:
A H-pipe is pretty much looks like what its named.
It consists of two parallel pipes that connect to the headers with a crossover pipe in the center connecting the two pipes, giving it that H look. Refer to picture on the left. Reasons to get an H pipe rather than using your Y pipe is to equalize the pressure in your exhaust. H- Pipes can come with or without Catalytic Converters. The ones with Catalytic Converters are called "off Road H pipes" Although, a H pipe Really isn't needed on a v6. There are tons of testimonies about pros, and cons on having a H pipe. Read below for for the reasons:
None Catted H pipeOff-Road H-pipe
A H-pipe is pretty much looks like what its named.
It consists of two parallel pipes that connect to the headers with a crossover pipe in the center connecting the two pipes, giving it that H look. Refer to picture on the left. Reasons to get an H pipe rather than using your Y pipe is to equalize the pressure in your exhaust. H- Pipes can come with or without Catalytic Converters. The ones with Catalytic Converters are called "off Road H pipes" Although, a H pipe Really isn't needed on a v6. There are tons of testimonies about pros, and cons on having a H pipe. Read below for for the reasons:
X-pipe Tech:X-pipe
An X-pipe works pretty much the same as the H-pipe on a v6. Of course like the name, it looks like an X.
The picture on the right is a custom made X pipe for a v6 mustang. X-pipes are used for better pressure equalization. But again on a v6 its not really needed.

Although people say the sound with a x pipe is far
greater than any exhaust they have ever
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the articles is very good although i have one more question. So, the only way for me to get true dual exhaust is to cut the factory y pipe? and how will I be able to connect them? By welding?
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the articles is very good although i have one more question. So, the only way for me to get true dual exhaust is to cut the factory y pipe? and how will I be able to connect them? By welding?
you have to get rid of the factory y pipe for ture duals. Yes some welding is required
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What is seriously the differences between the Y and X pipe? If they are both to disperse the air evenly why have Y's and X's?
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An H-pipe works by giving the air in the exhaust tubing an alternate path when it gets backed up and it also scavenges the air helping get the pressure equal through-out the system. An X-pipe works the same way but when it comes to the x junction, the air can go either way with more ease and creates a smoother flowing exhaust.
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Is there any site that you know of that sells X pipes for the v6 3.8?
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Noone that i know of does. I belive Brent found someone that makes em on ebay. That or you could get just the "x" and have a shop fab up the rest
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hmm seems like a good idea but I am got sure if i trust any shops around here, How hard would it be to rig one together you think?

Would a ford dealer carry X or H pipes? Would they be able to fab one for me?
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hmm seems like a good idea but I am got sure if i trust any shops around here, How hard would it be to rig one together you think?

Would a ford dealer carry X or H pipes? Would they be able to fab one for me?
Ford will not carry them. X-pipes are expensive to fabricate. Hell, my H-pipe was expensive to fabricate.

I'd just go with one off ebay and have a shop weld it up. If they can't weld up an x or h-pipe they wouldn't be in business.
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well an x-pipe is not going to help you muc more than an h-pipe until you're pushing some serious power. You'd be better off with an h-pipe until then. And then you could just have someone make an X to weld in place for you.
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Is there any site that you know of that sells X pipes for the v6 3.8?
spintech sells them
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although i may be better off with an H pipe for now, I still want an X pipe so i dont have to worry about switching it later. I went on spintech to see there X pipes and I dont know which ones will fit my car. 04'. Is the junction just the X part and I will have to weld more pipe onto in later?
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just go to the muffler shop and they will fab one up quick for cheap
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although i may be better off with an H pipe for now, I still want an X pipe so i dont have to worry about switching it later. I went on spintech to see there X pipes and I dont know which ones will fit my car. 04'. Is the junction just the X part and I will have to weld more pipe onto in later?
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all of those will fit?
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I sent them a email asking if they would fit. I will post their response when I get it
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