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Old 07-19-2004, 03:12 PM   #1
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I'm looking at a 2000 v6, its is supercharged, and has been that way for 30000 miles out of the 60000 on the car. I talked to him and he says he has gone without a chip for that time because diablo sent the wrong one then he sent it back several times and finally they told him to forget it, so he never got the chip. I have asked several people on AIM and recieved mixed responses, but I was wondering what you guys think.he has gone 3 passes on the track and otherwise says he hasnt reamed on it he also says its not lean and is only rich when you really punch it if that has to do with anything, he claims that the engine is just fine. How do you think the engine is? would the car be in safe enough condition to buy? btw this is a long ways away and i dont want to drive out to it if its probably not gonna be alright. any help would be appreciated

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How much PSI is he running? Did he upgrade the fuel system? Im not sure what else to think of.
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7 psi, thus you dont need fuel upgrades
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Im not sure all what to look for aside the normal stuffHopefully someone else will chime in.
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yea well brent thought the engine would be ok and eval and spector were skectical so i thought maybe someone else would know more here, thanks for the try
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no problem. Im a little skeptical about no tune, and the fact that he spent the money to supercharge it but hasn't beat on it. cuz i know i would
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you know my opinion on this.... any one that is to stupid to not get a dyno tune and run the car with no chip is not qualified to tell you what is/is not wrong with the car.
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this guy has had a supercharger on a car for 30,000 miles and hasn't ever abused it, you know thats a lie. if you supercharge a v6 you want to show it off and if he hasn't updated the computer with a dyno tune or a chip, your might be in for some serious problems with some internal problems. even though its 7 psi you should have it checked out. and what is his asking price? if the car is ok then the first thing you should do is get a chip or dyno tune. good luck.
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Old 07-19-2004, 10:48 PM   #9
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it should be fine just make sure you get a chip if you buy it. You cant buy it till next spring anyways so you got a long time to think about it
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ok heres what the car has

Engine:
3.8L V6 AOD
9psi ATI Procharger w/ 2 core intercooler
77mm Pro-M MAS (took it off though, wrong calibration)

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Mac Shorty Headers
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Mac 2.5" exhaust w/ 3.5" tips
Ford Racing Traction Lock
Diablo Sport Chip (couldn’t get it to work, wouldn’t start) have BEH2 as engine code

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wrapped in Nitto 555 Extremes
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and with what was stated previously in this thread do you think 10,500 is a fair price for that? or what price should i jew him down to if i ever do go look at it?
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Old 08-09-2004, 09:55 PM   #11
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yeah i think thats a pretty fair price, considering all the mods to it.
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any body else got opinions? take into consideration this car might need an sc rebuild soon and engine rebuild(but i hope not) any input would be appreciated.
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i don't think 10 is too bad either, considering its in good strong shape.
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Old 08-09-2004, 11:35 PM   #14
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If you do get this car I would think of taking it to a good tuning place and have them check it over, and have it given a full diagnostics.


And do your home work on who you take it too bfore just choosing anyone...
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Well I have to agree with KrazyPony on this. It needs to be taken to a place that can dyno tune. The engine in this car could be a time bomb. If whoever has the car now was easy on it and did not drive it like a manic it might be all right, but whotakes it easy on a supercharged car. The price is a little steep for a V6 even with a supercharger. Power adders on a stock motor do not add much value to a car especially if it was never tuned in 30,000 miles

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Yes tuning is everything, most people forget that part when adding a supercharger. What kind supercharger is it? Hopefully he upgraded his fuel system along with the supercharger. If it was N/A i'd say you wouldn't have much to worry about, but when it comes to power adders, you have to be wery of other peoples work.
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Yes tuning is everything, most people forget that part when adding a supercharger. What kind supercharger is it? Hopefully he upgraded his fuel system along with the supercharger. If it was N/A i'd say you wouldn't have much to worry about, but when it comes to power adders, you have to be wery of other peoples work.
Hey Rob he has a 9psi ATI Procharger w/ 2 core intercooler with a stock fuel system
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I would procede carefully.
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problem is its in iowa and Im in michigan so I couldnt just take the car to a place to have it checked out. anyhow thanks for the help and input guys i appreciate it.
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Hey Rob he has a 9psi ATI Procharger w/ 2 core intercooler with a stock fuel system
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on prochargers site it says for the 7psi kit (which he has but is getting 9 outa it) you dont need to upgrade the fuel system. I dont know much but he says its never lean and its only rich when you really gas it. is that a good or bad sign?
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Do you guys know of anything else I should ask him just to be safer/or good things to know before making a road trip to iowa?
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Actually no matter what system you get the Fuel system should be upgraded and a dyno tune needs to be done. A lean condition will kill a engine. You have know idea what damage has already occured.
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Id pass on it... btw where in iowa is he?
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Do you guys know of anything else I should ask him just to be safer/or good things to know before making a road trip to iowa?
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like i said... where in iowa is he cause i live there
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west des moines just in case anyone else is from Iowa
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Do you have a engine stethoscope? You can use that to check for knock in the engine? And if you have a vaccum gauge I would bring that also. Does this guy have any other mods other than the supercharger? If not at idle you can tell the condition of the engine with the vaccum gauge. If the needle is steady and around 17hg/in then it's a good engine. If he has a cam, then around 15hg/in is good. I have a huge cam, so mine is around 13/14 hg/in. If the needle moves like crazy or moves at all like 1 or 2 hg/in at idle, then I would suspect some engine damage. I'm going to assume he has a Vaccum/Boost gauge maybe. If he does have him make a movie of it and post it here so we can tell you what we think.
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well, I'm an hour from dsm. can always do a test drive
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I'm looking at a 2000 v6, its is supercharged, and has been that way for 30000 miles out of the 60000 on the car.
didnt' 99-2000 models have oil leakage through the PCV? oil in the cylinders or something like that? skip it if it did
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I'm in Iowa , under 2 hours from Des Moines... maybe you could fly by me if I went through there?... this sucks, I know of 2 decently modded cars in Iowa now, and neither of them are mine.... (Zimstang, and possible purchase) glad to know I'd get whopped by both of them
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at 60000 miles with all that gear...there is no way the guy hasnt "reemed" it..why else would you spend that much money...if i was you..i would buy a stock or nearly stock and add the mods yourself...its more fun that way
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