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Old 07-21-2004, 11:42 PM   #1
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What would you guys think are the best cams? Can you have cobra cams on a v6?
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You only have one cam in the v6. there are different cams for different applications, Im sure that someone can point you in the right direction...I would try PM'ing RGR or Mikael
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thanks 1 cam thats weired
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umm correct me if i'm wrong but i've allways been told that we are SOHC which means we have 2 cam's total one on each side right? because DOHC have 4 total 2 on each side.

this is what i have been told if i'm wrong correct me i'm still learning
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umm correct me if i'm wrong but i've allways been told that we are SOHC which means we have 2 cam's total one on each side right? because DOHC have 4 total 2 on each side.

this is what i have been told if i'm wrong correct me i'm still learning
We have one cam. (1) Uno



Cobra cam will not fit. Only a cam grinded for a v6 will. Check with RGR about a cam
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see this is what i get for listening to my friends


so ours is in the center of the block right?

whereas DOHC vehicles are 2 on each side?
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so ours is in the center of the block right?

whereas DOHC vehicles are 2 on each side?
Yes ours is in the center
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Yes ours is in the center
ok that clears things up thanks brent I'm learning
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moving to v6 tech...

v6 is "pushrod" (old school). one cam in the center that pushes up the pushrods that tilt the rockers that move the valves.

gt is single overhead cam (SOHC) meaning one cam is situated above each head.

cobra is same but DOHC, just more cams.

look at the bright side, sohc and dohc'ers regularly spend 450-650 for just the cams themselves. a custom ground pushrod cam willl only run us about 200 for the cam itself. this is why the 2005 OHC will not be worth modifying at all because it'll be so bloody expensive (as if modding a v6 is wroth it, anyways. :p )

that being said, a cam on a 99+ isn't a bad way to go. expect to shell out about 400 though minus the install. good for 15rwhp+. contact RGR and he will send you a questionarre to fill out.

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2: you have one cam, good old tech pushrod cheaper and easier to work on
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umm correct me if i'm wrong but i've allways been told that we are SOHC which means we have 2 cam's total one on each side right? because DOHC have 4 total 2 on each side.

this is what i have been told if i'm wrong correct me i'm still learning
Nope, we're OHV, Over Head Valves. And yes we only have one cam. If you do your own work, it's gonna cost you only about $170 to do the swap. Say about $120 for the cam and then about $50 for gaskets, and oil, filter and silicone. The real question is what do you really, and honest want to do with your car? Meaning, what is your goal?
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97S, you forgot new pushrods (80) and springs (100)... and RR's while he's in there would be ideal (300). plus install will be hellacious as tim can't do it yet.

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Oh ya, I keep thinking about my car. I changed my springs and pushrods ALONG time ago When I did my most recent cam swap, it only cost me $150 or so. But I would screw the pushrods and get adj. Roller rockers instead. Also, I wouldn't just do a cam swap in the first place. If those heads have to come off, then you're gonna need head gaskets and new studs or bolts for that too, so to make things cheaper in the long run, get some ported heads now so you only have to pull them off once. Think of it as you have to pay the garage for pulling the heads, and they're gonna charge you for replacing your springs, so you might as well put that money torwards the new heads instead. It might be a little more, but you're still saving money depending how you look at it.
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We can also set you up with a custom ground cam if you'd like.
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97S, you forgot new pushrods (80) and springs (100)... and RR's while he's in there would be ideal (300). plus install will be hellacious as tim can't do it yet.

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Always new springs if you are doing a cam , but if it is a mild cam and the old pushrods check out good use them. But a real performance cam you need new pushrods.

Changing a cam is not for the inexperienced. I have had 2 people I know nick their cam bearings installing the cam and spun the cam bearings out within 2 weeks of doing the work.
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yea, i am getting my friend at ford, he has done many cam swaps and rebuilt motors all that, im letting him do every step that i might screw up lol it might cost me a bit but i get to help and learn, and its MUCH better to let him do it than me mess it up.
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redline performance aka rpm-mustangs.com has a nice selection of cams, pushrods, roller rockers, springs to choose from. give them a call to and they can hook u up with a nice package for around $350-400. really nice for 15RWHP N/A engine. and 30+RWHP for s/c engines.
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I have a RPM cam and heads I installed them in 8 hours start to finish but I have 26 years as a mechanic with more tools than most garages
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I would be GREATLY honnored if you would come up when I do mine to give me a helping hand, I know Kevin can handle it but the more guys the better the chance i wont fudge something up lol. I am up here near brent so we could all get together. Let me know it will be in a couple few months on a saturday/sunday probably~

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I would love to My sister in law lives in Huntsville and I could help you while the wife and kids visit the family
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Corey,

That is real nice of you!
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let me know a date asap and i'll come to learn!

i just need a date beforehand so i can make sure I can come
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Corey, are you going to bring your tools down by him?
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I will bring some of them. Will there be a air Compressor available.I have air tools for disassembly.
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Ya, air tools make short work of it. An Air rachet, and impact wrench will be the majority of the tools you need. Don't forget to bring your power steering pulley remover and installer if you got one. And definately don't forget the harmonic balancer pulley remover either.
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Why the power steering puller just put it off to the side!!! I have a harmonic balancer puller
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Well how do you plan on getting to the bracket behind the power steering pulley that connects to the waterpump/timing cover? I'm sure you could fit a wrench back there, but I think that just makes it harder that way. I used to just pull off the pulley to get the bracket of, but that got old, so I just left it off completely.
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V 6 tech

I hate to burst a bubble but an overhead cam motor has been around since the Dusenberg J and SJ . (so much for "old school" ) LOL its just more common since machine tooling has completly changed since the introduction of CNC maching and better casting techniques.

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I had the timing cover off in 45 minutes. I took off all the engine brackets including the one that the steering pump mounted to. The engine was was broke down completely including intakes, heads, accessories, timing cover and cam in 1 hr and 30 mins. several hours was used to clean and prep before for reinstallation and about 2.5 hrs was used to actually put everything back to turn key and drive condition.

One note you dont have to remove the radiator. The V6 cam is short so it clears the radiator but you do have to remove the electic fan.
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One note you dont have to remove the radiator. The V6 cam is short so it clears the radiator but you do have to remove the electic fan.
Correct, but I take mine off just as a safety procaution. I'd hate to be tring to get the cam out and then it give way and then have the cam go throught the radiator, plus I like the extra 2 or 3 inches removing it gives you. All in all, I just like to play it safe. And Corey you never answered my question about that bracket. How do you remove it with out removing the pulley? Everybody has there own way, I'm just curious to how you do it. It's the final product that matters.
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I remove the entire bracket from the motor with the pump attached to the bracket
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interesting approach.....
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Where is this going on at? If it's in Alabama maybe I can provide the refreshments!
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What happened to this thread?
I say I'll show up and bring the drinks and the thread dies!

Well I'll just show up anyway and drink my own damn drinks while everyone else suffers and sweats in the heat installing that cam.

But really, let me know and I'll meet some fellow stangers!
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What happened to this thread?
I say I'll show up and bring the drinks and the thread dies!

Well I'll just show up anyway and drink my own damn drinks while everyone else suffers and sweats in the heat installing that cam.

But really, let me know and I'll meet some fellow stangers!
lol its probably going to take place in Florence, Alabama
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