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Old 08-09-2004, 09:14 PM   #1
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What do I need?

This is all gonna tie end together on why I want to do this...be patient and read.

Alot of the guys at school give me a hard time about the six. Aparently you get no respect for having 150 horsepower. Mostly in my shop class. They are always talking about how they own them in thier mom's Galant.

But one of the guys, haven't heard him talk trash about the Stang, has a 3000GT V6, 24V, 5speed. Has a Stage 3 clutch, billet flywheel, no cats, and CAI. He's about to load the bottom end up with all forged internal to run a big shot of N20 through it. He makes $20 an hour at his job. So I'm already down some here.

I wanna change the way people thing about the V6 Mustang. If I could edge out in front of him in a race I know people will rethink about my steed. I need every little bit of help I can get. Getting a sponsor would be great, but I don't think that is gonna happen. I'm not that luckily.

So I'm gonna need some help with some junkyard stuff here. Best rear end and all that stuff.

Guys you gotta help me out. I'm finally going after some performance mods now.
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Old 08-09-2004, 09:17 PM   #2
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well rear end wise, i say 8.8, specialy if you want to get up in the hp numbers. I rode in brents stang befor and after the swap and you could tell a huge difference on how it launched and such. 4.2L conversion is also a good idea.
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In Order:

Exhaust (2.25 back w/ hi flow cats)
8.8 Rear w/ 3.73 Gears
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Heads
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75 shot of the good stuff
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also don't forget about the basic intake/ exhaust/gears and such. gear wise i think you want to go 4.10s with an auto and 3.73s with a 5 spd. Best bet is to go to a junkyard and find an axle with the gears that you need already in it
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What rear end that will bolt in has the best gears then?

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75 shot of the good stuff
This I know. But what grind on the cam? What brand of nitrous and all that?

Oh, it must pass emissions in TN.
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i believe gts and cobras have the 8.8, im not sure of the gears tho, and I am not familiar enough with other ford vehicles to know wich of them have them, but i would bet the trucks and suvs might have an 8.8, is your car manual or auto?
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just find a slightly less than credible inspection place. ****tons easier than going fast legally.
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Nate, it's a 5spd.
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alright then what brent said, you want 3.73s
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What shot Zim? I'm thinking NX Nitrous unless someone else can convince me otherwise.
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go 75 shot when your engine is built nicely, ive heard nitrous express is good to go with.
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go with a 75 shot. It will be fine with yourt stock bottom end.
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What rear end that will bolt in has the best gears then?


This I know. But what grind on the cam? What brand of nitrous and all that?

Oh, it must pass emissions in TN.
Talk to RGR about cam grind. I would personally go with NX
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OK, gonna buy the generic CAI soon. My exhaust is gonna be the MAC y-Pipe bolt on and later I will hack the y-pipe off in replacement of...

Now I'm thinking an X-Pipe with high flow cats. Any reason to go with the H-Pipe insted?
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First off weight reduction, the neons gotta go j/k
id say gears, cam, heads, and nawwzz 75-100 shot.
Those 3000GTs are farily quick but overrated, the turbo'd ones are fun:yup:
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OK, gonna buy the generic CAI soon. My exhaust is gonna be the MAC y-Pipe bolt on and later I will hack the y-pipe off in replacement of...

Now I'm thinking an X-Pipe with high flow cats. Any reason to go with the H-Pipe insted?
do not buy the mac y pipe if your going to turn around and get rid of it thats just a waste of money.

I can not say this enough but do it the right way or just dont do it at all.

Dont bother with a xpipe just get a mac h pipe with h flow cats. Should get you by emissions no problem at all. Get gt take off cat back and bolt it on and your done. Replace the mufflers if you want.

Dont buy the cai before you buy the rest of the stuff I listed.
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OK, gonna buy the generic CAI soon. My exhaust is gonna be the MAC y-Pipe bolt on and later I will hack the y-pipe off in replacement of...

Now I'm thinking an X-Pipe with high flow cats. Any reason to go with the H-Pipe insted?
The x pipes are supposed to flow better. but i think the only differance you may notice is sound. h- more rumble, x- mellow
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His 3000GT is N/A.

He can't launch though. He just sits there and spins em. His wheel wells are covered in rubber.

Guess I need to practice launching.
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A Good launch =
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do not buy the mac y pipe if your going to turn around and get rid of it thats just a waste of money.
It's a metal pipe. It take me no time to weld another one back on.
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ur lucky it aint turbo'd hed own you lol
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It's a metal pipe. It take me no time to weld another one back on.
the only differance in the cat back portion of the y vs true dual is the length of the flow tubes. there shorter on the y pipe kit. but yeah its no real problem
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ur lucky it aint turbo'd hed own you lol
I would be going after someone elses car then.
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Call me crazy, but it seems like you have at least a little bit of tech know-how. Depending on your level of skill, I'd suggest you make yourself a junkyard turbo. lots of work, and can be pricey, but that list of stuff up above wouldnt be much cheaper. but thats just me...
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A junkyard turbo would cost more. Too much stuff to move around.

Zim, that's a bit much don't you think?
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look into a junkyard supercharger then. I'm not 100% sure, but I think you could convert a S/C from an old T-bird supercoupe fairly easily and throw it on your car. Can't imagine that costing more than 800, start to finish. Never done that particular S/C conversion though.
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Zim, that's a bit much don't you think?
nah, seems to treat me right
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A junkyard turbo would cost more. Too much stuff to move around.

Zim, that's a bit much don't you think?
100 shot isnt alot. Thats what zim runs on his.
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look into a junkyard supercharger then. I'm not 100% sure, but I think you could convert a S/C from an old T-bird supercoupe fairly easily and throw it on your car. Can't imagine that costing more than 800, start to finish. Never done that particular S/C conversion though.
Actually a lot harder than you think
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Matt,

Your best bet would definately to do your exhaust first and I said I could help you on that, but if you wanted you could go to a exhaust shop in town and have them cut your y-pipe so that way you could keep your cats and have the dual exhaust until you could afford a better exhaust down the road like I did. I explained about buying a 8.8 rear, so I would do that next. With the posi traction, you'll be able to launch better, a little quicker and straighter. If you're weary about doing some porting yourself, I can do it for really cheap if you want, and actually if I can get my top secret intake manifold made by then, maybe you can just use one of those too. I call it the RDX intake. It uses a 70mm TB, and has a larger volume for beefed up cars like mine. The SSX intake is way too big for N/A cars, even with that air horn I think. it's a good design, but it's mainly for supercharged cars as where mine is built around a N/A car. I'll keep you updated when I get it done. But I'm like 75% done with the first one, then I gotta get some numbers so it'll be a little while.
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Just hit it with as much nitrous as it'll take. See if it'll hold together under a 150...might need a new fuel pump, too.
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On a stock 3.8 a 150 shot is nuclear melt down. A 100 shot is about as high as most should go and that is with a good tune. The road to HP is paved with people blowing motors shooting a 125 shot on stock Pistons and rods
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On a stock 3.8 a 150 shot is nuclear melt down. A 100 shot is about as high as most should go and that is with a good tune. The road to HP is paved with people blowing motors shooting a 125 shot on stock Pistons and rods
You don't think the bottom end would handle it? I mean, with enough fuel and at least 6 degrees backed off the timing? I know a bunch of stock bottom end SBC guys that have run 150 without trouble. The only ones with trouble are the ones who leaned out or ran too much timing.
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