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Old 10-12-2004, 07:57 AM   #1
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Nice article there Pete. I am in the hunt for a 4.2 short block or 4.2 Crank, rods and pistons right now.
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this should be stickied, thats great information pete
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agreed... may be asking you questions on exactly how to do it when I get closer to blowing up my engine
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Exclamation 4.2 facts

Your info is correct, but for the older mustang owners (83-86) some things need to be changed for the older(ie flat tappets or earlier roller) blocks (heads ,intakes ,flexplates ,dampers and such. ) not limited to crank and piston /rod combos
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Nice article there Pete. I am in the hunt for a 4.2 short block or 4.2 Crank, rods and pistons right now.
check the classifieds at www.v6f150.com

i don't know if they have what you need, but it doesn't hurt to look.
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I have a 01 v6 mustang. About how much money is involved to swap it to 4.2?
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Where can I buy a 4.2 liter motor. I want to replace my 3.8 eventually.

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i'm gonna do this eventually. pete, stallion, my stang is a 1997. which version of the 4.2 would be the best to put in that year mustang? i want to make as much HP as i can off the engine before i put in the twin turbos. i'd like to go split port,and.. well, basically anything i can do to boost horsepower

can one of you 4.2 experts give me advice on this?

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Well I think if you could choose a year, I would go with a 97 or a 98 for you. All the years are the same, but 97's and 98 have the same crankshaft pulleys as the mustangs, so if you have 97 4.2 crank and balancer, you can use your crank pulley from your mustang. It would just save you a few bucks.
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Nice article there Pete. I am in the hunt for a 4.2 short block or 4.2 Crank, rods and pistons right now.
your not the only one
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If you guys are hunting parts just go to advance auto parts and get a crank kit because 99/02 4.2's use same pistonsI believe. Rods are different I believe
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Well I think if you could choose a year, I would go with a 97 or a 98 for you. All the years are the same, but 97's and 98 have the same crankshaft pulleys as the mustangs, so if you have 97 4.2 crank and balancer, you can use your crank pulley from your mustang. It would just save you a few bucks.
Yes, but if you are going to use a blower at some point go with the 01-up Mustang pulley/damper. Its the largest diameter.
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If you guys are hunting parts just go to advance auto parts and get a crank kit because 99/02 4.2's use same pistonsI believe. Rods are different I believe

Other way around... Crank and pistons are different. The 4.2/3.8 use the same rods.
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Im prolly just going to buy one of RPM's built street 4.2L shortblocks ($2290) when I have the money. then I will just swap my BV heads and intakes and get a new cam in prep for a S/C. By then ill have a new tranny and 8.8 rear as well.
This way I dont have to worry about the oil pan or flywheel or oil pick-up tube or anything, just simply swap engines!
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This info is awesome for the guys with the later 3.8's . How about some luv for all of us guys with the 3.8 carb'd & CFI motors?
There were other 3.8's besides the SN94's
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looking for 4.2 crank, rods and pistons


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your not the only one
Looking for 4.2 crank rods and pistons?

I have a set but the pistons are std. bore, however you could hone
the block and use them. It is not listed yet but the stuff will go in my
big Garage Sale cuz I gotta sell some stuff!


I'm telling you and not danger dog 'cuz I do not have the balancer and
you do not need it anyway... Sorry Corey Bro
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what kind of numbers does the 4.2 push out? estimated horsepower and torque as well as quarter mile time?
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250 RWHP is quite easy.

4.2's need porting all around, and the current goal is 300 RWHP
but those kind of #'s require really good combo matching, wild
porting to intakes and good headers (LT's) and a fine tune.
Might as well build a better shortblock while you're at it IMO,
but Justin @ 3.8 made 265 RWHP & 280 RWTQ with a stock shortblock.
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I was thinking of swapping my 38 for a 42.

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Strokers rule! Can't wait to purchase my 4.9 liter. What about a 5.4 stroked to a 6.0 RD should sell those shortblocks.
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I was thinking of swapping my 3.8 for a 4.2.

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What year? I have a cheap crank and pistons FS.
96 and up re-use their rods. LMK!
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re: How to: 4.2L V6 Mustang Engine Swap

how much hp gain you'll get after doing this and how much money will cost me for this parts and labor?
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re: How to: 4.2L V6 Mustang Engine Swap

Not so much HP but torque. You are at 4.6 Gt torque
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OK, if any of you guys have the cash, Litning at TCCoA.com, has a 4.2 that he was building for his T-Bird. The engine is for sale. It is tricked out with powder coated parts. He lives up in New England.

You want a 4.2. Here's one more than ready to go into your stangs.
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Hey RGR the franken motor runs baby and sounds kick-butt with open headers in a carport at 10pm!!! woke up my neigbor (but he has a loud "bubba truck" so I didn't mind lol
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Awesome info! I was looking into doing this to my 98, does anyone know of a detailed DIY guide? Im somewhat mechanically inclined, but instructions never hurt anyone and I would feel much better if I had a guide.
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would you need to change over the computers too or not?
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would you need to change over the computers too or not?
no , you may need to tune the fuel curve, but fire order and most if not all engine events are the same, depending on how crazy your camshaft is.
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I am doing a 4.2l swap in my 97 3.8l. I am using the origional 3.8l shortblock and adding a 4.2l crank, upgraded rods and pistons, .30 bore,and ported and polished heads, upper and lower intake.But I have ran into a few problems. With the 4.2l crank, since the stroke is increased, my pistons are now at TDC about 2mm above the cylinder wall. Any Ideas on how to solve the problem?
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Did you use 3.8 pistons or 4.2?
I used all 4.2 parts and had no issues.

You may have used upgraded 3.8 pieces, not taking into consideration they may be longer than the 4.2 units.
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yes i did use 3.8l parts. good point though i did consider the difference in rods, i had it backwards haha. Thanks for the help
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Im still having a few problems with the build. Ive been doing a little research and found an entire listing of ford motors rod length, stroke, and rod/stroke. according to this the rod length on both a 3.8 and a 4.2 are the same at 6.091. I have not purchased any 4.2 rods because i dont want to blow more money and be right back where i was. So with the rod length being the same on both a 4.2 and a 3.8, in order to build the 4.2 stroker, is the difference in the heigth of the pistons and not in the rods?


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The Mayfield Company Homepage - Automotive Analyses

Table 1
Engine Parameters

Motor Year Stroke Rod Length Rod/Stroke
1.6L Kent 71-73 3.056 4.9280 1.6126
1.6L CVH 81-85 3.130 5.1945 1.6596
1.9L CVH 85-96 3.456 5.1945 1.5030
1.8L DOHC 91-93 3.350 5.2300 1.5612
2.0L OHC 97-98 3.465 5.1945 1.4991
2.0L OHC 71-74 3.029 4.9820 1.6448
2.0L OHC 83-87 3.126 5.2047 1.6650
2.0L ZETEC 95-96,98-00 3.465 5.3618 1.5474
2.0L ZETEC 97 3.465 5.482 1.582
2.2L Probe 88-92 3.700 6.2000 1.6757
2.3L OHC 74-94 3.126 5.2047 1.6650
2.5L OHC 98 3.401 5.457 1.6045
2.3L HSC 84-94 3.300 5.4570 1.6536
2.5L HSC 86-91 3.583 5.9900 1.6718
2.6L V-6 Duratec 95-97 3.1299 5.4370 1.7371
2.6L V-6 72-73 2.630 5.1400 1.9544
2.8L V-6 74-80 2.700 5.1400 1.9037
2.9L V-6 86-92 2.835 5.1400 1.8131
3.0L V-6 86-94 3.150 5.5315 1.7563
3.0L V-6 Duratec 97-00 3.1299 5.4370 1.7371
3.4L V-8 SHO 96 3.1299 5.4370 1.7371
3.8L V-6 82-94 3.390 5.9135 1.7444
3.8L V-6 97-00 3.390 6.091 1.7967
4.0L V-6 90-00 3.320 5.7480 1.7313
4.2L V-6 97-00 3.7400 6.091 1.6286
4.5L SVO ? 3.500 6.0880 1.7394
170 I-6 61-72 2.940 4.7150 1.6037
200 I-6 63-83 3.126 5.8800 1.8810
250 I-6 69-80 3.910 5.8800 1.5038
240 I-6 65-72 3.180 6.2097 1.9527
300 I-6 65-94 3.980 6.2097 1.5602
221 62-63 2.870 5.1550 1.7962
255 79-82 3.000 5.1550 1.7183
260 62-64 2.870 5.1550 1.7962
4.6L V-8 91-00 3.543 5.9331 1.6745
5.4L V-8 97-00 4.165 6.6575 1.5984
6.8L V-10 97-00 4.165 6.6573 1.5983
289 63-68 2.870 5.1550 1.7962
302 68-94 3.000 5.0900 1.6967
302 Boss 69-70 3.000 5.1550 1.7183
302 SVO ? 3.000 5.1550 1.7183
351W 69-96 3.500 5.9560 1.7017
351 SVO ? 3.500 5.9560 1.7017
351C SVO ? 3.500 5.7800 1.6514
351C Boss 70-74 3.500 5.7800 1.6514
351M 75-85 3.500 6.5800 1.8800
400 71-81 4.000 6.5800 1.6450
352 60-66 3.500 6.5400 1.8686
390 61-71 3.780 6.4890 1.7167
406 62-63 3.780 6.4890 1.7167
410 66-67 3.980 6.4890 1.6304
427 63-68 3.780 6.4890 1.7167
428 66-70 3.980 6.4890 1.6304
429 Std 68-73 3.590 6.6050 1.8398
429 CJ/SCJ 69-70 3.590 6.6050 1.8398
429 Boss (S) 69 3.590 6.5490 1.8242
429 Boss (T) 69-70 3.590 6.6050 1.8398
460/460 SVO 69-94 3.850 6.6050 1.7156
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