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Old 12-31-2006, 09:47 PM   #1
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DSS stroker block pictures

More pictures of the DSS Stroker for your viewing pleasure


Cam degree kit, being used to find true TDC to calculate average piston to deck height

Piston, way down in the hole

E7TE identifying that the block came from a 1987 ford truck

Cool identifying stamp for DSS

Eagle Rods, nice set of cheap rods

Full Floating pistons

Main support system (aka hold it together if she blows!)

My G/F's *****!!
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Re: DSS stroker block pictures

Dude, that motor looks pretty damn good. I'm kinda surprised that a DSS engine looks that good to be honest. Now if the thing will just hold together...

BTW, you may wanna have that ***** checked. Something just doesn't seem right about it.
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Dude, that motor looks pretty damn good. I'm kinda surprised that a DSS engine looks that good to be honest. Now if the thing will just hold together...

BTW, you may wanna have that ***** checked. Something just doesn't seem right about it.
I have ~7k miles on mine and about 50 track passes so far... yet to burn oil, no noises/leaks/etc

why wouldn't it hold together?

mine looked that good too, if only it looked that shiny when its all together lol hope you have some nice clean aluminum heads and shiny valve covers for it mine doesn't look like much all told

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why wouldn't it hold together?
Because Mike hasn't been having the best of luck with engines/transmissions yet.

I think he's definitely got the right idea this time though.
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Re: DSS stroker block pictures

DSS FTW!

That thing is bad ***.

Tell your gf that she has a very nice looking *****.
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Old 01-01-2007, 12:34 PM   #6
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Because Mike hasn't been having the best of luck with engines/transmissions yet.

I think he's definitely got the right idea this time though.
Knowing what I know now, I realise that some of my old machinests knew less than me...
they actually suggested I overtorque my head's in the past to keep them from leaking when it turns out your supposed to put sealent on the bottom bolts (sticking in the water jacket) on a latemodel 302..

you only do this with studs though

they'd never heard of torque plates, nore line honing... or any of the other important prep work needed to be done for a high performance engine build
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Re: DSS stroker block pictures

^ wow thats some pretty crappy machine guys you have then cause thats crazy overtorqueing the heads what

looks sweet though hoping in a month or two ill finally be ordering up my DSS block cant ****in wait
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Re: DSS stroker block pictures

thought i'd add some new pictures...

I had to delete some of the old pictures to do this, so thats why they're gone

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here is the very high quality Romac ultralight


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I figured I put so much into the shortblock I might as well take all the recommendations and get the good stuff to insure a valve doesn't drop.
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:drool:

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That makes me miss having a project to sink all my money into.
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your lucky you live in TX id rb your house nah jk i cant wait to start buying my **** man im all pumped up as i bet you are too
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I live in ALA.. and nah, im trying to get too crazy outta control because thats when I start to get into a rush and successfully do the worst work
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I live in ALA.. and nah, im trying to get too crazy outta control because thats when I start to get into a rush and successfully do the worst work
Well, at least you do it successfully.
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Old 03-05-2007, 07:51 AM   #14
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Re: DSS stroker block pictures

heads are finally in

took way to long to get them but I suppose it was worth the wait
they have a few upgrades to them as well for use with the big cam



i'll post some more pictures later when I have time if you guys want (updated)


intake port

exhaust port

the chambers
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hot, want to trade heads?


haha


what intake are you planning to use?
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Re: DSS stroker block pictures

Nice setup your gonna be running! Those heads are the 185s, right?
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Re: DSS stroker block pictures

im going to use the trick flow R, in black to match these



this was decided long before the black thing came into play.
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Nice setup your gonna be running! Those heads are the 185s, right?
yeah 185's, the quality wasn't insane like I thought it was going to be unlike the romac unit which seems to be higher quality then I was expecting.
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booy u gon b runnin
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omg...i am so hate'n right right now...lmfao!!!! that is some really top shelf stuff u got dude...im man enough to admit when im jelous...im make your block pics my wall paper....thats some really sweet stuff u got
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LOL thanks man!
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Re: DSS stroker block pictures

just wanted to give this a bump to show you the scorpian rockers

im very pleased with these
they are made in the good ole USA to boot!, (not to meantion they're actually cheaper than some of the inferior stuff!)

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Re: DSS stroker block pictures

very nice.

i have an 81 fox hatch back and boy she needs some TLC.
I have quite some rust spots... a missing right back glass, and a **** load of work.

im looking into the probullet DSS block, it maybe the same block you have? 550hp? We may need to talk some more, because Ill be needing quite some help.

I'm looking into buying the turn key package though.
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how much did u pay for that block?
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how much did u pay for that block?
I'm wondering how much he paid for the rockers
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very nice.

i have an 81 fox hatch back and boy she needs some TLC.
I have quite some rust spots... a missing right back glass, and a **** load of work.

im looking into the probullet DSS block, it maybe the same block you have? 550hp? We may need to talk some more, because Ill be needing quite some help.

I'm looking into buying the turn key package though.
550 hp from a 331? Has to have some hellacious compression with all the head tricks and rev from here till next christmas.
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Looks like its going to be a nice setup. I wondered if you had considered taking a sanding roll to those heads since the port work looks kind of rough in the pictures? I'm sure they will be ok out of the box, but it just looks like an obvious easy clean up from the pictures.

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A totally smooth port is not what you want. Think dimples on golf balls.
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A totally smooth port is not what you want. Think dimples on golf balls.
That's nonsense. You want nothing that is going to cause airflow turbulence in the ports, which is why heads with a serious port job are done smooth. Take a look at the attached picture of my TEA ported Victors. These small block Ford heads flowed 396 cfm intake and 310 cfm exhaust, and both the intake and exhaust ports are very very smooth.

I guarantee that a sanding roll cleanup on those AFR 185's would help. Not that they will suck they way they are, but a cleanup would definitely improve them.

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It is popularly held that enlarging the ports to the maximum possible size and applying a mirror finish is what porting is. However that is not so. Some ports may be enlarged to their maximum possible size (in keeping with the highest level of aerodynamic efficiency) but those engines are highly developed very high speed units where the actual size of the ports has become a restriction. Often the size of the port is reduced to increase power. A mirror finish of the port does not provide the increase that intuition would suggest. In fact, within intake systems, the surface is usually deliberately textured to a degree of uniform roughness to encourage fuel deposited on the port walls to evaporate quickly. A rough surface on selected areas of the port may also alter flow by energizing the boundary layer, which can alter the flow path noticeably, possibly increasing flow. This is similar to what the dimples on a golf ball do. Flow bench testing shows that the difference between a mirror finished port and a rough textured port is typically less than 1%. The difference between a smooth to the touch port and an optically mirrored surface is not measurable by ordinary means. Exhaust ports may be smooth finished because of the dry gas flow but an optical finish is wasted effort and money.

The reason that polished ports are not advantageous from a flow standpoint is that at the interface between the metal wall and the air, the air speed is ZERO (see boundary layer and laminar flow). This is due to the wetting action of the air and indeed all fluids. The first layer of molecules adheres to the wall and does not move significantly. The rest of the flow field must shear past which develops a velocity profile (or gradient) across the duct. In order for surface roughness to impact flow appreciably, the high spots must be high enough to protrude into the faster moving air toward the center. Only a very rough surface does this.
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does this also apply to boosted applications that are pushing high levels of PSI or is that when restriction size is more important than the surface of the runners?
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I didn't say to polish it, just smooth it out, and with a dry intake EFI system leaving it rough to solve a non-existent fuel depositing problem is counterproductive. You go ahead and believe whatever you want though, and produce uncited quotes to back it up.

Silverstangboy - sorry your thread is turning into an argument. Like I said, nice parts, and the heads will work the way they are if thats what you want to do. I've got a car coming to the dyno on thursday which is very very similar to yours and we are expecting it to do well. For what it's worth, he didn't clean those ports up either!

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Silverstangboy,
Just got the new 347 running and it's a little monster, what little I've driven it so far. I want to drive down from Chattanooga to Huntsville and see y'all run. With the 4.56 gears I'll probably have to save up for the trip! LOL.
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