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Old 01-07-2011, 05:37 PM   #1
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Stall converter

Hey mustang maniacs I have an aod in my stang do I need to run a stall with the e303 if so what size stall is recommended any info is helpfull
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You don't need a stall but it definitely helps since the rpm range moves up with that cam. My wife has a 90 coupe with a cold air kit, tb, cobra intake, e303 cam, 4.10 gears, and a 3000 stall. Before the stall it was a little sluggish out the hole and after it launches like a five speed car. On street tires the car will only flash to around 2500. Perfect for the street. I added a tranny cooler just to keep the fluid temps down since she drives the car everyday and everywhere.
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You don't need a stall but it definitely helps since the rpm range moves up with that cam. My wife has a 90 coupe with a cold air kit, tb, cobra intake, e303 cam, 4.10 gears, and a 3000 stall. Before the stall it was a little sluggish out the hole and after it launches like a five speed car. On street tires the car will only flash to around 2500. Perfect for the street. I added a tranny cooler just to keep the fluid temps down since she drives the car everyday and everywhere.
Ok cool yea mine is going to be a daily driver to with the same gears also
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Re: Stall converter

i got a 24-2700 stall...i love it..just not the gas milage.
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Old 01-11-2011, 06:50 PM   #5
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i got a 24-2700 stall...i love it..just not the gas milage.
Whats a good stall for a AODE , that's what's in my 94 ?
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Whats a good stall for a AODE , that's what's in my 94 ?
evrybody says 3000 till you gotta put gas in it. i would go with 22-25 if it's gonna be a daily driver. chances are it will still flash at 27-30. that's just my opinion. when you are normal driving at low speeds the car will feel like it's got a slipping clutch (just a lil) till u hit the flash rpm. the higher the stall, the more winding up the motor will do when normal driving. and that's where your fuel goes, the motor revs and only but puts a fraction of the power down to the wheels. the high stall is great if you are street racing or at the track. but honestly, i dont think an e-cam is that big to need 3k on the street if you r running a high enough gear. i think e-cam turns on at 2500rpm anyway .
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Re: Stall converter

also, im not that positive for an aod(e). they dont shift the same as aod. theyre not consistant enough for me. that's y i dont run an electric unit. they seem to do things whenever they feel like it.
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also, im not that positive for an aod(e). they dont shift the same as aod. theyre not consistant enough for me. that's y i dont run an electric unit. they seem to do things whenever they feel like it.
Ok cool , I have about 3 months before I get to it ! Thanks !
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Re: Stall converter

i bought mine from roadrunner converters

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also, if u plan on putting alota power down later like a supercharger, u may not wanna go too high on the stall so u can still hook up on the street. bigger isnt always better when it comes to street cars
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Old 01-11-2011, 08:47 PM   #11
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A stock converter locks up at 1750. Take advise from someone who has actually bought and used both a 2500 and 3000 stall like me. When I first installed my 2500 stall I had a stock cam with gt40 heads intake, exhaust, gears, and a 75 hp wet kit. The only time it ever flashed to 2500 was when I juiced it out the hole on slicks. I was so disappointed I yanked it out and put in a 3000 stall and a stock cam makes more bottom end than any other cam. If you really want to be sure call lentech and let them know what you have in your car. They will tell you the same thing I just told you.
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A stock converter locks up at 1750. Take advise from someone who has actually bought and used both a 2500 and 3000 stall like me. When I first installed my 2500 stall I had a stock cam with gt40 heads intake, exhaust, gears, and a 75 hp wet kit. The only time it ever flashed to 2500 was when I juiced it out the hole on slicks. I was so disappointed I yanked it out and put in a 3000 stall and a stock cam makes more bottom end than any other cam. If you really want to be sure call lentech and let them know what you have in your car. They will tell you the same thing I just told you.
he's runing an ecam..not a stock cam
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My point exactly! The e cam doesn't make as much bottom end as a stock cam so it will never stall anywhere near 3000. My wife has the e cam, cobra intake, cold air kit, larger tb and maf, 4,10's, and exhaust. She doesn't race the car, has driven it everyday on the street for over 5 years, and it doesn't have enough power to stall anywhere near 3000 rpm. It's a high 13 second car. If your still not sure, I'll record a video sometime this weekend and post it up. If your not familiar with lentech just google it and call them, they are professionals.
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My point exactly! The e cam doesn't make as much bottom end as a stock cam so it will never stall anywhere near 3000. My wife has the e cam, cobra intake, cold air kit, larger tb and maf, 4,10's, and exhaust. She doesn't race the car, has driven it everyday on the street for over 5 years, and it doesn't have enough power to stall anywhere near 3000 rpm. It's a high 13 second car. If your still not sure, I'll record a video sometime this weekend and post it up. If your not familiar with lentech just google it and call them, they are professionals.
no, no..i believe you. i still wanna c the video though cause i like videos. i know who lentch is. i couldnt affor their aod's so i bought it from another vender
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I'll do it Saturday since I'm off this weekend. I'll do two videos....1 showing how much it will stall up to before the tires start to break loose and another showing the tach while driving. I like doing videos!
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lmao...i like watching. if i had my gf's cam i could do a video too. i would need a passenger to hold cam cause it gets crazy at stall speed when punched
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:17 PM   #17
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I'm not gonna bust on it cause she'll get mad at me. Lol the wifey gets pissed when I abuse her baby. I'm just glad she can't drive a 5 speed or she would probably return the favor.
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lmfao...my loud exhasut scares mine. she is scared to def stangs period. her friend has '09 gt500. if i get mine to bak it out da garage ive done real good. so u done alota stuff to da wife's car? i did a bunch of stuff to my x's stang..and i dont think she appreciated the work. now all the chics in my life r roll'n stock!
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I did a few things to her car but i decided to keep it tame and reliable since she drives alot for her job. She has an aluminum radiator, 130amp alternator, cobra intake, 65mm tb, 76mm maf, cold air kit, e cam, hpipe, Mac mufflers and pipes, 4.10's, lentech aod with the manual/auto valvebody, 3000 stall, caster camber plates motorsport lowering springs, and some chrome pony wheels. I'm not a fan of the color purple, but it's a pretty clean car. She had some nittos on the back but when they wore out she just bought the factory size tires for it so we could rotate them front to back. The motor has about 250k+ miles on it now and doesn't smoke a bit.
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Re: Stall converter

4.10's...really. she'd be gett'n a set of 3.55's or 3.27's wit the price of gas...lol.
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Believe it or not, the 4.10's do good in the city with all the stop and go traffic around here. She doesn't do much highway driving. I don't remember but I think it tachs around 2500 doing 70.
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no way, im there with 3.42's...something is screwy
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I don't remember. I'll have to check it out this weekend. I hardly ever drive her car. Do you have a 5 speed or aod?
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i got an aod..3.42 gears it's at like 2500 @65-70mph i started the thread on gas milage help because of it in 5liter forum
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I don't remember. I'll have to check it out this weekend. I hardly ever drive her car. Do you have a 5 speed or aod?
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So do I run a 2500 I'm not gonna be racing it at all but I will feed the fuel to it every once in a while
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No, I'm viewing all of this on my iPhone and it doesn't show your signature
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So do I run a 2500 I'm not gonna be racing it at all but I will feed the fuel to it every once in a while
if u want that off the line hard launch as if u got a 5 speed, then go with the 3000, especialy if you are not planining on boosting. after thinking bout it, i guesse if your putting down less than 300 at the wheels, 3000 stall is a good choice for street.
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if u want that off the line hard launch as if u got a 5 speed, then go with the 3000, especialy if you are not planining on boosting. after thinking bout it, i guesse if your putting down less than 300 at the wheels, 3000 stall is a good choice for street.
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I'm still posting a video this weekend.
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I'm still posting a video this weekend.
i cant wait!!!!
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