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Old 02-23-2011, 11:10 PM   #1
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351w or 351c?

Which would you rather have and why?
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Re: 351w or 351c?

Windsor. I think the Cleveland was originally a truck engine. Svtlx would probably know!
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Cleveland. Big block. Way more power and a 4 barrel carb. The Cleveland was a torque monster
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Depends on what you want from it. The Windsor probably has the larger aftermarket. You can't beat the 4V Cleaveland heads though if you want a high revving drag car. Those things move tons of air.

Personally I'd rather have a Windsor stroked out to a 408. You could also research the Clevor hybrids. It takes a little work, but gives you the best of both worlds.

Another thing to consider is if you want a carb or FI. Windsor will probably be the way to go if you want FI.
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Depends on what you want from it. The Windsor probably has the larger aftermarket. You can't beat the 4V Cleaveland heads though if you want a high revving drag car. Those things move tons of air.

Personally I'd rather have a Windsor stroked out to a 408. You could also research the Clevor hybrids. It takes a little work, but gives you the best of both worlds.

Another thing to consider is if you want a carb or FI. Windsor will probably be the way to go if you want FI.
Bbunt is right. The Windsor is easier to find parts for
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Thanks I will definitely keep all this in mind
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Re: 351w or 351c?

I have owned several 351c's and they are fun, powerful engines, but Windsors are stronger and they last longer when modded, and are cheaper to get big power out of because of the availability of aftermarket parts.
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Windsor for sure as stated before aftermarket is better
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I have owned several 351c's and they are fun, powerful engines, but Windsors are stronger and they last longer when modded, and are cheaper to get big power out of because of the availability of aftermarket parts.
What he said !!!!!

and the new aftermarket heads for windsors out perform the old 4v cleveland heads anyday
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What he said !!!!!

and the new aftermarket heads for windsors out perform the old 4v cleveland heads anyday
Blocks aren't as strong tho
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Re: 351w or 351c?

Cleveland blocks occasionally had problems with cracks, and substandard oiling systems...
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if you can find a real good professional ford builder.... the 351c will blow away the 351w ANY DAY of the week. now for the rest of us, the W will smoke the C.
with the C you'd better know what your doing

oh and generally you have to turn the C 8-9K to really see the shine.
I only feel safe turning my 8.2" W to 7K, its a street car.
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if you can find a real good professional ford builder.... the 351c will blow away the 351w ANY DAY of the week. now for the rest of us, the W will smoke the C.
with the C you'd better know what your doing

oh and generally you have to turn the C 8-9K to really see the shine.
I only feel safe turning my 8.2" W to 7K, its a street car.
Agreed. You have to be really willing to go balls to the wall with the Cleavelands.
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What he said !!!!!

and the new aftermarket heads for windsors out perform the old 4v cleveland heads anyday
not true, the C has new aftermarket heads too, and they're canted vavle... W heads are all straight short of the twisted wedge. the old C heads have huge ports (for the time period anyways) and most guys don't know how to cam to take advantage of them (me being one of them, but i've got a custom grinder for that).
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Windsor block is stronger and with a better aftermarket. If you want the best of both worlds cheap then you put Cleveland heads on a Windsor block and make the necessary adjustments so the coolant passages line up. If money's not an issue that just by some trick flow or dart aftermarket heads for the Windsor.
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Cleveland blocks are beefier ,stronger , but they don't oil well , NOT GOOD
My first hot rod was a 70 Mach with a Cleveland 4 bolt ,with Boss 302 heads ( for those of you who don't know ,those are pretty much 351c 4v heads with smaller combustion chambers and set up for solid lifters ) , i had a solid lifter cam in it ,the freakin think wouldn't idle below 1200 rpm's ,it got 4 -5 mp gallon .....
had 4.30's in he rear , it only ran high 12's ... at the end of the 1/4 mile's when it started to pull .... I'll never forget that engine !!! it was a beast ...
todays Windsors are much more efficient and make more power , better gas milage etc ...... technology marches on ..........
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