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Old 03-27-2011, 02:06 PM   #1
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got it together now engine wants to pop and crack

so i got it together but while i was doing the drive train i figured i would do a tune up ford racing 9mm plug wire that were on there before ... auto lite plugs gapped at 50 and one of the msd blaster coils ... now it cracks and pops and has a high idle it seems it dont wanna cam or lobe it seems i noticed that the gap after i got all the plugs in was like in the 30s would that make that much of a diffrence??? also i am the guy who noticed oil on the plugs so i figured that i could increase the gap maybe to help buring the oil off.. ne suggestions or opinions would be greatly appreciated it has set for about a month to ... thanx guys
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Old 03-27-2011, 07:54 PM   #2
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Re: got it together now engine wants to pop and crack

actually it wants to vibrate after it reaches abut 3000 rpms ??? dont know if its the clutch or driveshaft..
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Did it crack and pop prior to ur tune up? You're saying that the engine is idling irradically and backfiring steady at 3000rpm? If so you have a vacuum leak somewhere and oil on ur plugs? Bro do a compression test for all eight cylinders,even a comp.leak down test too.Sounds to me that you have worned piston oil rings.Does it smoke a lot? Time for an overhaul or a new crate motor.How many miles on engine? was it a racer? Bro in ur case there are so many possibilities to what ur problems are but we can't understand with what's going on with ur car due to ur chopped up english.you are jumping around and we are thrown off and can only guess.Expln. 1st)about ur engine and it's symptoms.then #2)expln. about ur trans and it's symptoms you know? one at a time so we can help you. Don't worry,ask away but you need to be explanative and in order.Good luck!
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The rings could be the problem. The popping sounds like it also could be timing.? What year car is it? If it has a distributor not sure if it was removed or what you did to the car.
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Re: got it together now engine wants to pop and crack

i believe your distributor is off by one tooth. that would cause your popping and vibration.
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Re: got it together now engine wants to pop and crack

So i pulled the plugs and gapped the back to the 35 as they were prior tune up... tonight i will take it out and try it out and see if there is ne diffrence, i know it will need an over haul cause the car was supercharged and i think the prior owner must have ran to much boost and blew the rings..
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So i pulled the plugs and gapped the back to the 35 as they were prior tune up... tonight i will take it out and try it out and see if there is ne diffrence, i know it will need an over haul cause the car was supercharged and i think the prior owner must have ran to much boost and blew the rings..
Take the car to a reputable mechanic and have him diagnose the vehicle.
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Old 03-30-2011, 04:24 PM   #8
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thanx for the advice and opinions, sorry some of this post were chopped up, i should have just posted this in the other thread on here i had takin out the tranny and replaced the clutch insead of starting another one , ... plug gap was to wide ... finally the car is up and running .... thank god!!! which i am sure a bottom end rebuild will be needed later .. i would have taken it to a mechanic in the first place but i figured this was a fourm for info and opinions do you reply that to all posts??? that would be like a television telling a viewer to listen to the radio.... lol
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Not to mention it's exspensive!
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thanx for the advice and opinions, sorry some of this post were chopped up, i should have just posted this in the other thread on here i had takin out the tranny and replaced the clutch insead of starting another one , ... plug gap was to wide ... finally the car is up and running .... thank god!!! which i am sure a bottom end rebuild will be needed later .. i would have taken it to a mechanic in the first place but i figured this was a fourm for info and opinions do you reply that to all posts??? that would be like a television telling a viewer to listen to the radio.... lol
Whenever you obvisouly have an issue that could be a random assortment of a multitude of things, Yes. I do this job daily in my career and will be the first to give you helpful advice rather than just telling you to start spending your money swapping parts. Your information was vague and very hard to understand. If you want me to spend your money making guesses, then sure thing. Your analogy fails.
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Re: got it together now engine wants to pop and crack

Really? Just look at all the guesses..

Vaccum Leak (which could be 100s of parts)
Oil on Plugs (valve seals? ect ect ect)
Perform Compression/Leak Test, Rings?
Overhaul?
Timing/Distributor?

Would you like someone who can spend a half hour eliminating those items for you to do a diagnosis or would you like to consult with someone who can't even look at your vehicle.

As far as expense goes, you could easily consume the cost of a diagnosis fee with one part exchange...
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i Understand... but i have noticed that by listening to others wen they decribe there problems and solutions , i like doing things on my own and learning how to do it myself and always love advice , problems and solutions , comparing and contrastin......, your not gonna take it to any mechanic and after he diagnosis it him tell you step by step how to get to the problem or let alone how he fixed it step by step.. he will probably throw you some code from the ecu or tell you a list " like yours " and eliminate them.. step by step, there for paying him to solve the problem at 75 to 100 dollars an hour instead of me getting some pointers lookin into them myself and just be out the cost of the parts... my analogy stands..
really not trying to make this a big issue, problems fixed
process of elimation again thanx for the pointers all that provided them
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Well said! I think were all hear to help each other out that's what this is for I thought? I guess everyone just start taking your cars to a master mechanic that wasted there money going to UTI or some other over priced school and delete this section of the site
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i Understand... but i have noticed that by listening to others wen they decribe there problems and solutions , i like doing things on my own and learning how to do it myself and always love advice , problems and solutions , comparing and contrastin......, your not gonna take it to any mechanic and after he diagnosis it him tell you step by step how to get to the problem or let alone how he fixed it step by step.. he will probably throw you some code from the ecu or tell you a list " like yours " and eliminate them.. step by step, there for paying him to solve the problem at 75 to 100 dollars an hour instead of me getting some pointers lookin into them myself and just be out the cost of the parts... my analogy stands..
really not trying to make this a big issue, problems fixed
process of elimation again thanx for the pointers all that provided them
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Well said! I think were all hear to help each other out that's what this is for I thought? I guess everyone just start taking your cars to a master mechanic that wasted there money going to UTI or some other over priced school and delete this section of the site
We are here to help and I never gave the impression it wasn't. I have him the best advise there was. As you will notice when there is a more specific advice or information I provide it. I've done this for years. If he would not have solved the issue at this point it was the best advice he could have gotten.

As far as the master tech part, your being ridiculous. UTI is a great school and can be.helpful to the right individual. Atleast those guys are trying to make something themsekves. Most people that have a problem taking their car to a certified mechanic are the ones who.can't afford it and are usually the most uneducated about what mechanics have done to get where they are at, the equipment they use, and methods they have perfected.

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We are here to help and I never gave the impression it wasn't. I have him the best advise there was. As you will notice when there is a more specific advice or information I provide it. I've done this for years. If he would not have solved the issue at this point it was the best advice he could have gotten.

As far as the master tech part, your being ridiculous. UTI is a great school and can be.helpful to the right individual. Atleast those guys are trying to make something themsekves. Most people that have a problem taking their car to a certified mechanic are the ones who.can't afford it and are usually the most uneducated about what mechanics have done to get where they are at, the equipment they use, and methods they have perfected.

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No ****. Gone are the days that a mechanic just turned a wrench. And every different car has a different operating system and differences the engineering of systems. I mechanic taught on today's vehicles needs a masters in engineering almost

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Everett you are correct. Electrical schematics and data streams are the most important things these days. If you can't read them you are running blind. No more grease monkeys these days. A lot of intelligence is needed by mechanics these days. I'm a certified master tech. I don't build engines. I let a machine shop do that because that's what they do. And engine builders don't fix drivability issues. It's all specialists these days. And many of these guys are as sharp as they get.
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I agree I was in the mechanic field myself but I also know around here atleast there are alot of shops that rip people off on a daily basis. I know not all shops are like this though
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Also have a friend that went to UTI and said it was a waste but he knew his stuff about cars already maybe it's for the less experienced. Or maybe it was just his class no one took anything serious and fooled around all the time but I know he will never get that 20,000 dollars back that he claims was wasted
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Also have a friend that went to UTI and said it was a waste but he knew his stuff about cars already maybe it's for the less experienced. Or maybe it was just his class no one took anything serious and fooled around all the time but I know he will never get that 20,000 dollars back that he claims was wasted
Yep. I've heard that before. $20k and 2 years and still start off changing oil for the first couple years. Can't trust a newb fresh out of tech school. Honestly.
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Nope. All shops want experience not schooling
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Wow i totally didnt want this to go down this route did not want an arguement to break out... but personally i get on here to hear about someone elses trials and errors , because when i hear about someone doing something a certain way or tellin me they have had the same experience or problem then i feel like they have already experienced it instead of someone reading from the trouble shooting text out of cliftons, thats why i always like comn to fourms to get advice on problems with my vehicle because there is always someone who has had or is having the same problem as you and i believe the saying "two heads are better than one!!!" i am greatful for all the adice including the suggestion to take it to a mechanic because i was at the end of my rope with it!!! but i know everyone has been there once or twice on here lol.. but thanx again she is running good ... soon i will be redoing the bottom endground up so i will definatly be needin some tips!!
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Wow i totally didnt want this to go down this route did not want an arguement to break out... but personally i get on here to hear about someone elses trials and errors , because when i hear about someone doing something a certain way or tellin me they have had the same experience or problem then i feel like they have already experienced it instead of someone reading from the trouble shooting text out of cliftons, thats why i always like comn to fourms to get advice on problems with my vehicle because there is always someone who has had or is having the same problem as you and i believe the saying "two heads are better than one!!!" i am greatful for all the adice including the suggestion to take it to a mechanic because i was at the end of my rope with it!!! but i know everyone has been there once or twice on here lol.. but thanx again she is running good ... soon i will be redoing the bottom endground up so i will definatly be needin some tips!!
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