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Old 04-21-2011, 10:07 PM   #1
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Your current setup and horse power

Well question is what set up do you have? I'm trying to compare with others and see what different setups bring to the table. Reason for this is that my setup is weird to me or maybe I might have an issue I'm not aware of. Here we go this is what I got....


Edelbrock performer rpm heads shaved .003
Ford racing head springs
Scorpion 1.72rr
Stock push rods
Ford racing lifters
Professional products intake bored a little
E303 cam
30 lb injectors
73mm c&l maf
Cold air intake
70mm bbk throttle body
65mm spacer
New Stock replacement crank and bearings
New stock distributer
Stock pistons
Melling oil pump
Ford racing fuel rail
Holley 255lph fuel pump
Under drive pulleys
Ac delete
Smog delete
Manuel fan

My question is that I used to run lean with 24lb injectors but yet my buddy with trick flow from top end to pistons can run with 24lbs and still run rich. I still ran lean with 60 psi going through the injectors and nothing now I run my 30's and it's a bad ***. Other question is what kind of power you think I'm making...
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:10 PM   #2
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302? Prob just over 300 rwhp
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:15 PM   #3
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Thanks brett. Yes it's a 302. When I bought the car I was told it was a 306 but when I replaced the head gasket measured the bore and it was exactly 4" so dont think it was actually bored out.30 over.
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:21 PM   #4
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Yea man probably around that mark quick little car that's for sure.
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:47 PM   #5
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As for my set up. Long list my friend.
Fully built 347 Polished AFR Heads. Polished Trickflow intakes as a custom cam that I had made by trick flow. 373 gears. Full suspension. Full bear break system all around. Full race suspension. Pro charger at 12-14 psi. Car makes 650 rwhp. Jus a few mods I listed off the top of my head.
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Wow thats what I call a beast. I used to have a vortech s trim on mine and decided one day I wanted to run NA. I have my days I regret it but over all happy I did it. It runs real strong and still puts me in the trunk from time to time. I did have a cage in it and cut it off 2 weeks ago and put a new interior in it rug and all
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Wow thats what I call a beast. I used to have a vortech s trim on mine and decided one day I wanted to run NA. I have my days I regret it but over all happy I did it. It runs real strong and still puts me in the trunk from time to time. I did have a cage in it and cut it off 2 weeks ago and put a new interior in it rug and all
Yea my car was NA for about a week haha. It made 405 rwhp NA. I don't have a cage so I can't run it at the track(to fast) but I love my interior also so a sleeper doesn't bother me. What year is your car? Mine is a 95 GT
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Mine is a 87 with maf
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Old 04-21-2011, 11:55 PM   #9
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I have a 302 with stock lower, b cam dot to dot, trick flow 170 heads, scorpion 1.72 stud mounted Rr, weiand stealth dual plane intake w a 1" phenolic spacer, Holley 650 dp, msd ignition, electric fan, Holley blue fuel pump, and underdrive pullies! 320 rwhp on a dynojet.
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:29 AM   #10
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Thats what I was thinking mine was putting out as well and around 340-360 crank hp
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Thats what I was thinking mine was putting out as well and around 340-360 crank hp
wuts up with the 70ml t.b. and the 65ml spacer? anyway, i honestly think you are closer to 300-315 at the crank. 340-360 on a standard stroke with pump gas is really reaching for the stars.

if you can see my signature my set-up is on there.
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If I'm running 300hp then how would it be possible to run lean on 24lb injectors. It would die out at around 4500rpm. Now with the 30lb injectors I can rev to 6000rpm easy and not running rich at all but still on the leaner side since I'm only running the psi at 38.
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If I'm running 300hp then how would it be possible to run lean on 24lb injectors. It would die out at around 4500rpm. Now with the 30lb injectors I can rev to 6000rpm easy and not running rich at all but still on the leaner side since I'm only running the psi at 38.
your goin by the "horse power window" for injectors... that's only a tool, not a "exact science bible". my car runs great on 30lbs injectors also (on motor only)..and i have ported stock e7 heads.

also, 38psi isnt running on the leaner side. i run 11psi of boost on the same 30lbs injector... does that mean im only making 350hp cause i run a 30lbs injector? i think not bud.
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If I'm running 300hp then how would it be possible to run lean on 24lb injectors. It would die out at around 4500rpm. Now with the 30lb injectors I can rev to 6000rpm easy and not running rich at all but still on the leaner side since I'm only running the psi at 38.
also, i run only 28-30psi of fuel.... so according to your math, you should walk all over me. and i serously dought that would happen.
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I guess mine likes more fuel. My buddy with trick flow pistons and top end is running 24lbs and is pushing around 380 right now. I dont know the deal with my car it's just really weird. I know every injector size has its ranges which is what I was trying to make a point on. With the 24s I had them maxed out at 63psi and still ran lean. With the 30lbs I set it at 30psi and worked great but better at 38psi. Ran rich around 46psi vac off. Im just trying to figure out the science on my setup.
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Re: Your current setup and horse power

every car is different bud. just think how i felt when my car ran awsome on stock (ported) e7's with 30 pounders. and then still runs great w/ 11psi of boost without adjusting the fuel pressure. now that's crazy. now dont get me wrong, you could be at that point. our set-ups are pretty similar (on motor) besides for heads, maybe your squeeking 330 at the crank, but idk.. i could be wrong.

once you get over 300 on a standard stroke n/a.. it gets harder to make good gains.

ive talked to guys that have "technicaly smaller set-ups than me and make more hp (allegedly)... it depends on the dyno, and every motor is different... and injectors can be a wierd thing too.
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Another factor was that I got rid of my 42lbs super charger and chip and figured I could run 24s but running over 60psi on injectors would wear them out quick so had to go one step higher. It's crazy man. I bought the car a year ago from a guy who bought it from another guy and everything done was not very clear so found everything out when I ripped it apart after blowing the head gasket and trans. It is suppose to be a 306 but according to my measurements it's right at 4" no more so can't really tell if it's really bored. I know the heads were ported a little more .003
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dont let the bore size give you the impression there's tons of hp in there. 60psi of fuel through an injector is supposed to be the max... then u start running into overlapping duty cycles with the injectors and the springs cant keep up and they can run hot. my experience is..anything over 50psi and the computer has a hard time keeping up with the injectors and the car wont run consistantly.
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Re: Your current setup and horse power

all engines are different , had a friend who bought a 347 stroker from CHP , with all the best parts , it had the tfs head,cam and intake package and only made 301 RWHP after a tune , very disappointing .........
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Re: Your current setup and horse power

I wish I knew as much about my car as you do I bought mine already modded ,it had all the engine mods on it when I bought it from the dealer I am in the prosess of trying to find out more about it . yours sounds like a beast .
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all engines are different , had a friend who bought a 347 stroker from CHP , with all the best parts , it had the tfs head,cam and intake package and only made 301 RWHP after a tune , very disappointing .........
Hahahaha wtf? I probably would have cried
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Hahahaha wtf? I probably would have cried
I KNOW , I felt bad for the kid ,he spent a lot of $$$$
I installed everything for him, New engine ,trans ,we put a fuel system in , a ton of nice stuff, he saved his money for a year for all that ... what really sucked was ,i dyno'd my Mach the same day and made more power than him , so he was upset to say the least .....
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Damn that sucks. Sometimes your better off doing the junk yard builds and get more power vs spending tons of money on something that you could have done yourself or sent to a good mashine shop. Well you seen my setup I might have spent 2500 for everything but I'm sure now in days there are better deals like craigslist ebay etc that you can get good parts cheap
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