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Old 06-03-2011, 01:07 AM   #1
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Windsor sr (ported) vs afr 185s

I have a 10.2 compression 331 with comp 282 cam victor jr intake 750 holley car is 5spd 4.30 rear car has Ported Windsor srs on it now my question is would you change them for afr 185s? Worth the trouble?
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I have a 10.2 compression 331 with comp 282 cam victor jr intake 750 holley car is 5spd 4.30 rear car has Ported Windsor srs on it now my question is would you change them for afr 185s? Worth the trouble?
Yes, the AFR's flow better out of the box and will save you some weight.
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Re: Windsor sr (ported) vs afr 185s

I wouldn't don't think the difference would be worth the time and $$$$ investment
like Trojan Horse said the Afr's flow better "out of the box" but your Windsors are ported ,and the SR's do flow well also / so is your money and time worth a few horse power ?? and we don't know the extent of your port work ?? you may lose power .... its a crap shoot ,that's not worth a set of new heads in my opinion ...
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Well it would only cost me about 550 dollars I have someone that wants
my srs and my srs do out flow the afrs just think the smaller runners (air-speed) might help with my setup or maybe just put a solid roller in it to match the bigger heads?
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Well it would only cost me about 550 dollars I have someone that wants
my srs and my srs do out flow the afrs just think the smaller runners (air-speed) might help with my setup or maybe just put a solid roller in it to match the bigger heads?
Just curious, if they have smaller runners, how can they outflow the AFR's?
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Just curious, if they have smaller runners, how can they outflow the AFR's?
PORTED Bro .... the Windsors , but he's saying the AFR's have smaller runners now ..... at least thats what I'm pickin' up
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PORTED Bro .... the Windsors , but he's saying the AFR's have smaller runners now ..... at least thats what I'm pickin' up
Maybe.
I took this "my srs do out flow the afrs just think the smaller runners (air-speed) might help with my setup" as referring to the SR heads.

And this "or maybe just put a solid roller in it to match the bigger heads?" as referring to the AFRs.

The link I provided shows the AFRs outflowing the SRs by a pretty good amount. It would take a lot of porting work if there is enough porting room even for the SRs to outflow them.
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Yes my srs have 200 cc stock intake runners they are very close to 205 cc intake runners now they actually out flow the afr 185s by about By about 10 cfm all the way up to 650 lift but my cam stops pulling around 6500 and the power from the heads and intake don't start to pull hard till around 3800 just because a head flows better than another doesn't necessarily mean it will be faster it all depends on where your car is setup to make power at so thats why I was wondering if it was worth the swap
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And what I was saying is my srs are bigger than the 185s intake runner exhaust runner all out bigger head so either I'm gnna put a bigger cam (solid roller ) and keep my srs so I can get the power band up where the heads pull or go to a smaller 185 head (afr) to match the cam I have but I have a guy that wants my heads and the head swap or the cam swap would cost me around the same price
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Re: Windsor sr (ported) vs afr 185s

I was looking at the comparison tables shown in the top of the page through the link I provided. Choose the two head brands from the menu and take a look. You will see why I couldn't see how the SR would outflow the AFR.

Regardless, I would do it for the simple fact that you may be close to the limit on the SR heads, you still have room in the AFR heads if you decide to go for more power and the AFR's will be considerably lighter, which will remove some weight from the front end and shift the weight bias a bit more to the rear.
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Well my car is already all tubular up front and battery in trunk also it's carbed car pulls 1.5 60 fts my heads were Ported by meaux racing the best in the business just seeing peoples opinions car is no slouch now by no means
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Well my car is already all tubular up front and battery in trunk also it's carbed car pulls 1.5 60 fts my heads were Ported by meaux racing the best in the business just seeing peoples opinions car is no slouch now by no means
Sorry, I did not mean to imply that it was a slouch or that you don't know what you are doing. Just trying to provide you with an opinion based on my past experiences and knowledge gleaned from thousands of past discussion like this.
Please tell us more about what you have, what it runs, how it is set up, etc. etc.
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Oh no wasn't saying it in a bad way the car is a 92 coupe all tubular front and rear 4.30 gear 3650 trans car ran a best 11.36 at 117.9 na mid 10s at 125plus on 150
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Oh no wasn't saying it in a bad way the car is a 92 coupe all tubular front and rear 4.30 gear 3650 trans car ran a best 11.36 at 117.9 na mid 10s at 125plus on 150
What does it weigh?
If you don't mind me asking whose tubular front end are you using and how is it holding up? Street driven too?
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It's 2860lbs it's a Upr set up I love it handles great and strong no weld problems or bending or anything
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Yes it's a street car
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Re: Windsor sr (ported) vs afr 185s

Great!
So far my research on tubular front ends has turned up only one manufacturer (Maximum Motorsports) that will certify their front ends for street use. I like their stuff, but man is it expensive.

My concerns are based on the road conditions in my area, which are terrible since the economic downturn. I just want to be safe and sure that whatever I buy will hold up.

Thank you for the information.
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I would say go for it. I agree that you'll probably gain more average horsepower and torque with the smaller runners of the AFRs. CFMs don't tell the entire story. AFRs are so well respected because of their excellent machine work and superior flow velocity. They consistently out perform other heads on the track that perform just as good on the flow bench. If you have an opportunity to make the upgrade for that cheap, I would definitely do it.
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