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Old 06-11-2011, 09:42 AM   #1
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Problem getting started?

I've got an 89gt that I'm messing around with. Got it last summer and was starting and ran great. then I went to drive it one day, I had to hold the key over for the electronics to stay on. It kept getting worse untill it would'nt start at all. I put my new key cylinder in it this morning, fresh battery, checked all fuses and nothing but dome light and the door open dinging. I would really love to drive it! Any help please. Thanks
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Re: Problem getting started?

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That was next part, but the only thing that's odd is that when it started getting bad, I had to hold the key over for the motor to run and the electronics to stay on. If I let off of the key and it sprang back, everything would kick off. Then I took the key cylinder out and cleaned it, put it back in and, nothing but what I said above. Seems like a bad conection, but I thought a new cylinder would be the right answer. Just ordered an ignition switch.
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Re: Problem getting started?

I agree it sounds like your ignition switch has failed internally.
Disconnect your battery before you replace it to make sure nothing shorts out during the replacement.
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Same thing happened to me in my 93, that definitely sounds like the ignition switch.
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awsome! thanks guys.
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Just for info this was a recalled item back in the day. It would short and start the car on fire. Many of the symptoms of the recall are what you are explaining.
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Thanks man, Def. going to call first thing Mon. morning. This forum is GREAT!
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Now for a stupid question, where is the ignition switch located. I've looked untill I'm sick. lol I would assume it's under the dash.
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Now for a stupid question, where is the ignition switch located. I've looked untill I'm sick. lol I would assume it's under the dash.
The only stupid questions are the ones you don't ask...that really get you into trouble.

The switch is connected to what you put the key lock cylinder into in the column.
I would advise that you purchase a Haynes or Chilton's manual to aide you in replacing the switch. It will also serve to help you with any future issues that may arise.

Service Manual Instructions:

Ignition Lock Cylinder

REMOVAL:
1. Disconnect the battery and air bag backup power supply.

2. Remove the two trim shrouds.

3. Remove the electrical connector from the key warning switch.

4. Turn the key to the RUN position.

5. Place a 1/8" wire or small punch in the hole in the casting surrounding the lock cylinder to depress the retaining pin in the lock cylinder while pulling on the lock cylinder to remove it from the column housing.

INSTALLATION:
1. To install the new lock cylinder, turn the key to the RUN position and depress the retaining pin. Insert the lock cylinder into its housing. Ensure the cylinder is fully seated and aligned in the interlocking washer before turning the key to the OFF position. This action will permit the cylinders retaining pin to extend into hole in the column.

2. Using the key, rotate the lock cylinder to ensure correct mechanical operation in all positions. The key release button must be used to obtain OFF and LOCK positions. Install the electrical connector for the key warning switch.

3. Check for proper start in PARK or NEUTRAL. Also ensure that the start circuit cannot be actuated in DRIVE and REVERSE and that the column is locked in the LOCK position. (They may have swapped 3 & 5 in the manual, because this would be hard to do with the battery disconnected.)

4. Install the two trim shrouds.

5. Reconnect the battery.


Ignition Switch

REMOVAL:
1. Disconnect the battery and air bag backup power supply.

2. Remove the two trim shrouds.

3. Remove the electrical connector from ignition switch.

4. Turn the key to the RUN position.

5. Remove the 2 screws that connect the switch to the column.

6. Disengage the ignition switch from the actuator pin.

INSTALLATION:
1. Adjust the ignition switch by sliding the carrier to the RUN position. A new ignition switch should be already set to the RUN position.

2. Make sure that the key is also in the RUN position.

3. Install the ignition switch onto the actuator pin. It may be necessary to move the switch slightly back and forth to align the switch mounting holes.

4. Install the retaining screws. Tighten to 50-60 lb.-in.

5. Connect the electrical connector to the ignition switch.

6. Connect the battery. Check ignition switch for proper funtion including START and ACCESSORY positions. Also, ensure the column is locked in the LOCK position.

7. Install the two trim shrouds.

8. Connect the air bag backup power supply and battery.
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can't believe I missed it. When I hang upside down under the dash makes me sick. lol Thanks again.
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can't believe I missed it. When I hang upside down under the dash makes me sick. lol Thanks again.
Found more information for you and posted it above.
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Got me a Haynes Repair Manual, and the breakaway bolts-do I just drill them out and use the east-out tool then put new ones in? Man, seems like alot of trouble for 2 screws.
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The only stupid questions are the ones you don't ask...that really get you into trouble.

The switch is connected to what you put the key lock cylinder into in the column.
I would advise that you purchase a Haynes or Chilton's manual to aide you in replacing the switch. It will also serve to help you with any future issues that may arise.

Service Manual Instructions:

Ignition Lock Cylinder

REMOVAL:
1. Disconnect the battery and air bag backup power supply.

2. Remove the two trim shrouds.

3. Remove the electrical connector from the key warning switch.

4. Turn the key to the RUN position.

5. Place a 1/8" wire or small punch in the hole in the casting surrounding the lock cylinder to depress the retaining pin in the lock cylinder while pulling on the lock cylinder to remove it from the column housing.

INSTALLATION:
1. To install the new lock cylinder, turn the key to the RUN position and depress the retaining pin. Insert the lock cylinder into its housing. Ensure the cylinder is fully seated and aligned in the interlocking washer before turning the key to the OFF position. This action will permit the cylinders retaining pin to extend into hole in the column.

2. Using the key, rotate the lock cylinder to ensure correct mechanical operation in all positions. The key release button must be used to obtain OFF and LOCK positions. Install the electrical connector for the key warning switch.

3. Check for proper start in PARK or NEUTRAL. Also ensure that the start circuit cannot be actuated in DRIVE and REVERSE and that the column is locked in the LOCK position. (They may have swapped 3 & 5 in the manual, because this would be hard to do with the battery disconnected.)

4. Install the two trim shrouds.

5. Reconnect the battery.

Ignition Switch

REMOVAL:
1. Disconnect the battery and air bag backup power supply.

2. Remove the two trim shrouds.

3. Remove the electrical connector from ignition switch.

4. Turn the key to the RUN position.

5. Remove the 2 screws that connect the switch to the column.

6. Disengage the ignition switch from the actuator pin.

INSTALLATION:
1. Adjust the ignition switch by sliding the carrier to the RUN position. A new ignition switch should be already set to the RUN position.

2. Make sure that the key is also in the RUN position.

3. Install the ignition switch onto the actuator pin. It may be necessary to move the switch slightly back and forth to align the switch mounting holes.

4. Install the retaining screws. Tighten to 50-60 lb.-in.

5. Connect the electrical connector to the ignition switch.

6. Connect the battery. Check ignition switch for proper funtion including START and ACCESSORY positions. Also, ensure the column is locked in the LOCK position.

7. Install the two trim shrouds.

8. Connect the air bag backup power supply and battery.
This was great info!!!
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running like a champ.
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Thanks guys, It's awsome to drive it again!!!!
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Thanks guys, It's awsome to drive it again!!!!
Glad to hear it.
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