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Old 07-29-2011, 04:10 PM   #1
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pushrod or modular

I was curious what's better cause I'm thinking about doing another fox in a while and I was wondering if I should do another 351. A 302 or a modular motor the 5.4 or the 4.6 all input is good.
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Pushrod all day... They are cheaper to build because instead of buyin 1 cam u have to buy 2 or 4 and everything else it's cheaper to
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I was curious what's better cause I'm thinking about doing another fox in a while and I was wondering if I should do another 351. A 302 or a modular motor the 5.4 or the 4.6 all input is good.
Depends on the amount of money you want to spend.

A 351W pushrod engine will provide you the most bang for your buck and be the easiest to install in a Fox Body.

If money is no object and you want a challenge then go with the mod motor.
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Are modular better design? I really don't know anything about them I have done pushrod forever
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Are modular better design? I really don't know anything about them I have done pushrod forever
I suppose they probably are, but they have lots more parts to deal with (more complicated design) and they are very limited in cubic inch displacment possibilities.
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Why would u say they are limited cant you bore and stroke just like any other car
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Why would u say they are limited cant you bore and stroke just like any other car
Pushrod engines have been bored & stroked out to 800+ cubic inches.

The biggest modular engine that I have heard of to date is a 351 cubic inch version.

So, starting with a 351W you have already matched the cubic inches of the largest mod motor and with the correct 351W block you can bore and stroke it to 454 cubic inches.
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One more question for u. Do u think that a 302 is easier than a 351 to be a daily driver.
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Re: pushrod or modular

If you want to have some fun... 6.8 V10, it's a mod motor, fits perfectly, and has some serious low end torque. Put a TKO behind it, a good rear, and have some fun. Got to ride in this exact setup a few weeks ago...
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If you want to have some fun... 6.8 V10, it's a mod motor, fits perfectly, and has some serious low end torque. Put a TKO behind it, a good rear, and have some fun. Got to ride in this exact setup a few weeks ago...
People have done this with unsatisfactory results
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I'd build a 5.4 from the ground up
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One more question for u. Do u think that a 302 is easier than a 351 to be a daily driver.
Yes, for a daily driver they are hard to beat.
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Pushrods. It's the way God intended for valves to be actuated.
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People have done this with unsatisfactory results
This one is running off the factory V10 ECU, all it needs at this point is a tune for the whole no cats/egr/etc thing.
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Pushrods. It's the way God intended for valves to be actuated.
Well, the Car Gods anyways.
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Start a car with a pushrod motor and one with a mod motor, rev them up redline a couple times and listen to them, whichever one makes your pants move and your hair stand on end is the winner.........or you could skip all that pants moving embaresment and just build a pushrod
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Start a car with a pushrod motor and one with a mod motor, rev them up redline a couple times and listen to them, whichever one makes your pants move and your hair stand on end is the winner.........or you could skip all that pants moving embaresment and just build a pushrod
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Pushrods def! Ha
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Actually Trojan, your forgetting about the newest mod motor... The 6.2 that's found in the f-150s...
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Actually Trojan, your forgetting about the newest mod motor... The 6.2 that's found in the f-150s...
You are partially correct.
I didn't forget, I just hadn't heard or read anything about it yet.

I stand corrected, "The largest mod motor I have heard of to date is the 6.2 379 cubic inch Ford truck engine."
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You are partially correct.
I didn't forget, I just hadn't heard or read anything about it yet.

I stand corrected, "The largest mod motor I have heard of to date is the 6.2 379 cubic inch Ford truck engine."
6.8 V10 is still larger...and a mod motor.
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Don't forget that the mod motors have a much larger footprint, so installation may be much more complicated.
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6.8 V10 is still larger...and a mod motor.
True, but we were unofficially talking about V8's.
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True, but we were unofficially talking about V8's.
Well v8s are the best and defiantly sound the best in my opinion
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Well v8s are the best and defiantly sound the best in my opinion
I think the main problem is the weight of the v10... The car would handle like sh*t.
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I think the main problem is the weight of the v10... The car would handle like sh*t.
Same with big blocks. That's why I like small blocks.
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Same with big blocks. That's why I like small blocks.
Yep... I would love a nice blown 302...
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With my next fox I decided imma do a 331 with some boost.
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With my next fox I decided imma do a 331 with some boost.
Lol, that would be fun.
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Well v8s are the best and defiantly sound the best in my opinion
Agreed.
Most V10's sound like a UPS truck.
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I think the main problem is the weight of the v10... The car would handle like sh*t.
True.
If money were no object, I would like an all aluminum 351W bored and stroked to 408 or 427 cubic inches with twin turbochargers.
The best of both worlds.
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I was told it was bad to run a lot of boost on aluminum blocks. That's why I grabbed an iron 351w for my fox cause I wanted to run lots of boost. Is that true or does it not really matter.
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I was told it was bad to run a lot of boost on aluminum blocks. That's why I grabbed an iron 351w for my fox cause I wanted to run lots of boost. Is that true or does it not really matter.
Depends on the block and how much webbing and strengthening has been done to it. A good aftermarket block should hold up just fine.
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