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Old 09-16-2011, 07:23 PM   #1
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Okay, I have a '95 SVT Cobra and I'm thinking about rebuilding the small stuff on my 5.0. I'm thinking rings, valves, springs etc. Anybody know of any kits or advice?

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When I have it apart I'm gonna have it ported and polished but I want to try and bring back the horsepower that 160,000 mi. Takes away. Right now I burn oil, not too much to be alarmed about but about a qt. A month, maybe a little more if I get a little wild
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Doing yourself? Plenty of kits out there from mild to wild. Of course you always have the option of taking your engine to a mustang specialist for a freshen up. I like that kind of thing because if something goes wrong it's on them(@ a reputable shop) and if you screw it up it's on you.
There are also engine exchange companies yours for theirs, some do the swaps. I'd be wanting a guarantee I was getting another cobra motor not just an HO 5.0L as the two are different.
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Doing yourself? Plenty of kits out there from mild to wild. Of course you always have the option of taking your engine to a mustang specialist for a freshen up. I like that kind of thing because if something goes wrong it's on them(@ a reputable shop) and if you screw it up it's on you.
There are also engine exchange companies yours for theirs, some do the swaps. I'd be wanting a guarantee I was getting another cobra motor not just an HO 5.0L as the two are different.
How are they different except the camshaft. It has the same short block as the 93-up H.O.
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Was always under the impression cobra 5.0L had four bolt mains where standard HO had two bolt mains. When standard 5.0 blocks were only $299 the "Cobra" blocks were advertised at $1699.. I think the heads and or valve size is different too. I'm no expert and I didn't research it, just off the too of my head so I could be mistaken.
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Doesn't the 95 cobra have gt40 heads?
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The heads, intake, and cam are the only differences I have ever been aware of.
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Are the internals the same? Forged V cast?

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I know 92 up have cast..
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Are the internals the same? Forged V cast?

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I know 92 up have cast..
They aren't forged, it's the same hyper's the 93 up 5.0s have. 92 still had forged pistons.
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The internals are basically the same as the regular 5.0 of the same year.
The only differences I was ever aware of are the HCI as stated by 93slowstang.
Other than keeping the matching block/intake numbers, I wouldn't be too concerned about changing or updating any of the other engine components.
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'93-'95 Cobra 5.0L: 230 HP, 295 TQ (More like 270/320!)

Cobra Intake (Cast version of the GT40, another cast version also used on '96-'01 Explorers/Mountainiers)

GT40 Heads- (Standard version, also used on '96-early '97 Exploders/Mountaniers, and on '93-'95 Lightnings, and also on Marine 351's. P versions used on '97 1/2-'01 Exploders/Mountaniers)

65mm tbody and 70mm MAF , computer calibrated for 24lb injectors (70mm MAF, computer calibrated for 19Lb's also used on '94-'95 H.O's)

1.7 Roller Rockers (Stock style pedastel mount, made by Crane)

24LB injectors

Hyperuetectic pistons

Slightly wimpier than the HO "Cobra" cam-Duration: 270/270, Lift: .479/.479 (1.7 rockers)(Also used in T-birds)

'87-'95 H.O 5.0L: 225hp/300tq (downrated in '93 to 205/275(nothing changed, so 225/300 is still valid., '94-'95 versions 215/285 (

Production H.O. upper and lower intake (Different upper for '94-'95's)
E7TE "truck" cylinder heads
60mm tbody and MAF (70mm MAF for '94-'95?
1.6 stamped steel pedastel mount rockers(non-roller)
19Lb injectors
H.O cam- 276/266, .444/.444
'87-'92 forged aluminum pistons, mid-'92-'01 (all 5.0's)- hyperuetectic pistons

'86 5.0 H.O: (200hp/285 tq- hardest accelerating H.O. engine, but no top end)

Lower flowing upper intake, same lower (carried over to passcar engines)
E6SE heads ("High Swirl" heads that are the crappiest of them all- continued in use for all base passcar 5.0's until '91 or '92)
55mm t-body (carried over to passcars)
Forged pure flat-top pistons, no valve reliefs (Cast versions carried over in passcar use)
H.O cam (Passcars also have a roller, but it's super wimpy and uses the standard non-ho firing order)
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Just to correct something on there, the computers were calibrated for the injectors not the maf. And 87-92 was forged aluminum ( it was missing).
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Always been under the impression 92 were cast internals, though mid 92 sounds reasonable enough to me.

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Just to correct something on there, the computers were calibrated for the injectors not the maf. And 87-92 was forged aluminum ( it was missing).
Actually he has the 87-mid 92 forged pistons posted just north of the info for '86.
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Didn't say it wasn't done mid 92, more than likely when they started putting hyper's in. Not disputing that at all.
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So mcNassty I hope all this helps you freshin up your engine.
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Actually he has the 87-mid 92 forged pistons posted just north of the info for '86.
Just didn't have forged on there, dont want someone who doesn't know to assume 87-92 was hyper's too.
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Just didn't have forged on there, dont want someone who doesn't know to assume 87-92 was hyper's too.
you were right.i edited the info.should be accurate now.thanx for the catch.
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Just didn't have forged on there, dont want someone who doesn't know to assume 87-92 was hyper's too.
Lol I read it again after I posted that and realized that! My B! 

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DreamStang, Great post with great info. Did you pull that off a thread here or elsewhere?
The CBR forum I belong to was working on stickies for each model with model specific info like this for each model along with model reviews pics and links from the original model release. That kind of thing would be a great resource for ME because places like Wikipedia, and people like me can be inaccurate and misleading.
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it was off allfordmustangs.thanx! def good information that alot of people need sometimes.glad it could be helpful.
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it was off allfordmustangs.thanx! def good information that alot of people need sometimes.glad it could be helpful.
Cool. I'm a member over there as well. Haven't been on over there in a long while.. Need to drop in. Think that site is based out of NC, which is where I live.
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Lol I read it again after I posted that and realized that! My B! 

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DreamStang, Great post with great info. Did you pull that off a thread here or elsewhere?
The CBR forum I belong to was working on stickies for each model with model specific info like this for each model along with model reviews pics and links from the original model release. That kind of thing would be a great resource for ME because places like Wikipedia, and people like me can be inaccurate and misleading.
No biggie Dreamstang that is an awesome post. Maybe Trojan or another mod can make that a sticky for future reference.
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No biggie Dreamstang that is an awesome post. Maybe Trojan or another mod can make that a sticky for future reference.
Maybe, but we need to know if he had permission to use it first.
You can get into a good bit of trouble just copying and pasting info from other websites.
That is why I either ask first or just provide a link to the info.
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Maybe, but we need to know if he had permission to use it first.
You can get into a good bit of trouble just copying and pasting info from other websites.
That is why I either ask first or just provide a link to the info.
So it would be a better idea to have some of us to do a write up on the models with this type of info plus other facts.
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So it would be a better idea to have some of us to do a write up on the models with this type of info plus other facts.
Yes, that would be the best scenario.
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Ok so who wants to type it up... If no one else wants to I will when I get to a computer.
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Want to do it as all inclusive as a list type thing, covering 79-95? Or 85-95 as 85 auto had the first FI, or start 86-95? 79-85 then 86-93 then 94-95, assuming the post would have other info(model yr specific)
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Don't really have time to do a good right up.working 7 days right now.u guys are welcome to the honors.
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Ya, thanks guys no help. Oh and upper and lower Gt-40 intakes and heads and upgraded MAF is the stock and supposedly 275hp.

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And dead spot you say there are plenty of kits but you don't post them
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Ya, thanks guys no help. Oh and upper and lower Gt-40 intakes and heads and upgraded MAF is the stock and supposedly 275hp.

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And dead spot you say there are plenty of kits but you don't post them
No help...
Excuse me?

He didn't post the kits because he doesn't know exactly what you want and you are perfectly capable of searching for them yourself.
Go to our site sponsors and search for engine kits for your year engine.
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No help...
Excuse me?

He didn't post the kits because he doesn't know exactly what you want and you are perfectly capable of searching for them yourself.
Go to our site sponsors and search for engine kits for your year engine.
There will be plenty to choose from.
Wow.. All I can say is wow.. Trojan you are way more diplomatic than me bro..

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Wow.. All I can say is wow.. Trojan you are way more diplomatic than me bro..

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Thank you.
I try to be as much as I can. The boss doesn't like the bickering and fighting and I don't want someone to get banned because of it, so if I can do something to head it off I usually try to do so.

It does get under my skin a bit when people are unwilling to put in a little effort getting their own information and they belittle the help they have received.
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Ment to quote all of it, glad you understood what I ment. As far as what you said couldn't have said it better..
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Wow whatever. I figured you guys would be helpful like if you had done something like this to your car than maybe some helpful info maybe some links but no ya just chatted on my link. Get offended but ya'd think you would only give helpful comments not argue over my h.p. Rating. And maybe as a mediator you could be helpful

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And what info did I get? He said there are numerous kits without even putting a brand name for them and than suggested I use a shop and the rest of the posts are you guys arguing over my engine and internals
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