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Old 12-17-2011, 09:31 PM   #1
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a/c and smog delete.

Planning on takin my ac pump and smog pump off. Any tips?
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Tips as in your going to need a shorter belt and to make sure your a/c isn't under pressure because a face full of freon isn't fun? Make sure you know your emission laws before removing the smog pump. Idk what the laws are in Penn. but if you get inspected without a smog pump they could ding you on it.
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Planning on takin my ac pump and smog pump off. Any tips?
When removing the smog
Pump you need to cap a line that goes into your h pipe. also you need to plug a line going into your heads
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If I just bypass the pump with a different belt do I have to plug the holes in the head? Or just leave everything be?
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If I just bypass the pump with a different belt do I have to plug the holes in the head? Or just leave everything be?
You can just leave everything where it sits..
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You could always find 2 spark plugs and break off the porcelain piece and screw those into the back of your heads. I've done that before and so have some buddies.
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The back of the heads can be plugged with a short 5/8 11 bolt
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The back of the heads can be plugged with a short 5/8 11 bolt
I think there 9/16 nc x 3/4"
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I think dreamstang is right actually..
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I think dreamstang is right actually..
++^^ think he is too..
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I think dreamstang is right actually..
He is correct.
That is the size I have used numerous times, which I verified with a tap.

A 9/16" bolt may crossthread in there, but it is not the correct size.
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Don't know if urs is a 95 if so here is a diagram of shorter belt
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If I just bypass the pump with a different belt do I have to plug the holes in the head? Or just leave everything be?
As stated you can just get a shorter belt and leave everything on there. But you can't remove BOTH the A/C and smog without either an A/C delete kit or smog delete kit. But you don't need both.
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i would get the ac delete.so u can get that eye sore out of there without looking stupid.it will put the p/s pump where the ac was.
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As stated you can just get a shorter belt and leave everything on there. But you can't remove BOTH the A/C and smog without either an A/C delete kit or smog delete kit. But you don't need both.
The a/c delete I have moved the idler pulley..then I just got a shorter pulley to bypass the smog pump..
They also have a/c delete kits that move the power steering to the a/c spot..
I still want to remove the smog pump to make room,and shave weight!.
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The a/c delete I have moved the idler pulley..then I just got a shorter pulley to bypass the smog pump..
They also have a/c delete kits that move the power steering to the a/c spot..
I still want to remove the smog pump to make room,and shave weight!.
that belt tensioner works there?i was only asking cause i was looking for a 83-85 v6 manual belt tensioner to clear the blower belt i plan on using.holley told me that the only way.i have the frpp ac delete though so your mounting location may not work on mine.i just never saw them on the driverside of the motor and my blower snout sticks out right where my stock tensioner is.
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that belt tensioner works there?i was only asking cause i was looking for a 83-85 v6 manual belt tensioner to clear the blower belt i plan on using.holley told me that the only way.i have the frpp ac delete though so your mounting location may not work on mine.i just never saw them on the driverside of the motor and my blower snout sticks out right where my stock tensioner is.
I actually like it better there I think it looks cooool!...not as cool as a s/c though!!..to mount the tensioner there the kit comes with bushings and attaches to the power steering and water pump...I think your kit adds a pulley at the old power steering spot right?...mine is just a plate to move the tensioner..
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My kit has a new plate that bolts to the ac holes and w/p .then the power steering moves up to that plate.
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You could do it another way and it would only cost you some washers, a turn buckle, new belt and some time. I just removed my a/c and left my PS pump where it is. I then took off the alt bracket, removed the tensioner, and started grinding and chipping away at the bracket to give the alt more room to move. Then installed the turnbuckle and everything. Haven't had any problems and it's been since April. I can understand if you just buy the kit. I have a whole other spare car with engine tranny and everything I need should I decide Yo put the tensioner back on and move the ps pump( or lose it).I'll take some pictures of my setup when I get home today.
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Here are 2 pics, basically just cut out the spot where the tensioner would be(sawsall and hammer work) so that the alt plug will clear the bracket. Then install the turnbuckle(with a jam nut so it can't back out). Then install your belt. It's really pretty simple and saves you some money but like I've said it didn't bother me to cut up the alt bracket as I have an extra.
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Here are 2 pics, basically just cut out the spot where the tensioner would be(sawsall and hammer work) so that the alt plug will clear the bracket. Then install the turnbuckle(with a jam nut so it can't back out). Then install your belt. It's really pretty simple and saves you some money but like I've said it didn't bother me to cut up the alt bracket as I have an extra.
so the turn buckle is tenioning the belt right.i would think it would but u still have 2 bolts in the alertnator at the bottom right? man u guys are giving me some great ideas.
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so the turn buckle is tenioning the belt right.i would think it would but u still have 2 bolts in the alertnator at the bottom right? man u guys are giving me some great ideas.
Yes that is correct, the top bolt threads into the alt which you might need a longer bolt for that since you are adding the turnbuckle I can't remember, but then there is also the bolt bolt at the bottom left that goes through the alt and alt bracket and the bracket is still held in place to the engine with the factory bolts. Be careful if you do what I did with the bolt that goes into the waterpump, it's very easy to strip that if you over tighten it. If you have any questions or anything let me know, I might even be able to take it apart and show you each piece since well, not going anywhere for the winter heh.
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Yes that is correct, the top bolt threads into the alt which you might need a longer bolt for that since you are adding the turnbuckle I can't remember, but then there is also the bolt bolt at the bottom left that goes through the alt and alt bracket and the bracket is still held in place to the engine with the factory bolts. Be careful if you do what I did with the bolt that goes into the waterpump, it's very easy to strip that if you over tighten it. If you have any questions or anything let me know, I might even be able to take it apart and show you each piece since well, not going anywhere for the winter heh.
my current setup is fine but im installing a blower and its right were the tensioner is.so im just feeling out uour guys tenioner setups.the weiand tech guy told me to use a 83-85 v6 tensioer but they are not very plentiful.i do like that setup and thanks for the info.i am going to save your pic if you dont mind and possibly if needed post it in my s/c thread.
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Not a problem, if it helps someone out I'm all for it.
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Here are 2 pics, basically just cut out the spot where the tensioner would be(sawsall and hammer work) so that the alt plug will clear the bracket. Then install the turnbuckle(with a jam nut so it can't back out). Then install your belt. It's really pretty simple and saves you some money but like I've said it didn't bother me to cut up the alt bracket as I have an extra.

EXCELLENT!

Redneck ingenuity at its finest.
I heartily approve and admire your efforts.

"If it don't fit or work, make it fit or work!"
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EXCELLENT!

Redneck ingenuity at its finest.
I heartily approve and admire your efforts.

"If it don't fit or work, make it fit or work!"
Thanks lol
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Not to sound rude but that's way to much work for 1-2 hp you will never feel as far as the a/c. Plus if you want to resale your car it's harder without it. You lose maybe 4-5 hp running the ac and at WOT it cuts off any way. Far as the smog I bought a 91 inch belt rerouted it works great no issues at all. Good luck with you endevors.
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Not to sound rude but that's way to much work for 1-2 hp you will never feel as far as the a/c. Plus if you want to resale your car it's harder without it. You lose maybe 4-5 hp running the ac and at WOT it cuts off any way. Far as the smog I bought a 91 inch belt rerouted it works great no issues at all. Good luck with you endevors.
1-2 hp and cleaning up the engine bay
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Not to sound rude but that's way to much work for 1-2 hp you will never feel as far as the a/c. Plus if you want to resale your car it's harder without it. You lose maybe 4-5 hp running the ac and at WOT it cuts off any way. Far as the smog I bought a 91 inch belt rerouted it works great no issues at all. Good luck with you endevors.
1-2hp but a good 10-15lbs gone!..well worth it IMO...
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Well as long as your happy with it that's all that matters. You will shed some weight fosure
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Not to sound rude but that's way to much work for 1-2 hp you will never feel as far as the a/c. Plus if you want to resale your car it's harder without it. You lose maybe 4-5 hp running the ac and at WOT it cuts off any way. Far as the smog I bought a 91 inch belt rerouted it works great no issues at all. Good luck with you endevors.
91 inch belt? I'm down to a 65 inch belt, I'm all for having a/c but it's really not going to bother me on a older vehicle not to have it but that's just me, I only drive my car a few times a month on nice sunny days so a/c is kind of useless for me as I'm not in stop and go traffic I'm just cruising around with the windows down listening to the pony run.
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Yea I have a sn95 so routing is differant than a fox factory belts are like 102-106 if I remember right. I also drive mine as a daily so I don't think I would survive without a/c lol
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