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Old 12-21-2011, 03:23 AM   #1
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Hello all..I posted a couple weeks ago about my Fox shooting oil out the dipstick...anyways my friend whom I grew up with that got me into mustangs is selling me his motor..he is a mustang nut...I believe he is switching to something bigger...he is not stressing for.money and he said if I didn't buy it he was putting it online for 1000$... He is going to sell to me for 600$...fresh motor...here is what it consist of... Stock block n rods.... Keith black forged pistons .....trick flow stage 2 cam.... trick flow push rods .....dbl roller timing chain.... 351 winsor heads ....stock valve covers ....cromoly rings ...arp head studs....I'm sure this is a great deal...correct? I don't know much about the name brand but I know a lot about cars and can drop this motor in my car easily alone...I just don't know anything about the brand and quality of what this motor comes with nor have I took up the time to research it...so please don't call me an idiot...thanks and all feedback is appreciated .
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the brand and quality isn't a concern here...those are decent parts...however how long has this "fresh" motor been run, and what is his driving style...
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It's never been ran...he never fully finished putting it in his car..he has a few foxes
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So it's a new engine or a rebuilt one? either way it's a good deal if all the parts are in fine condition.
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Rebuilt...the block was sent to machine shop...oil pan and other small parts are added back onto the motor
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Go for it...not like you'll find a better deal locally right
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Old 12-21-2011, 04:16 AM   #7
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Yeah u r right...thanks
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Old 12-21-2011, 05:10 AM   #8
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Don't buy it!btw what's this guys name and telephone #?j/k man I would hop on that quick.
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Hello all..I posted a couple weeks ago about my Fox shooting oil out the dipstick...anyways my friend whom I grew up with that got me into mustangs is selling me his motor..he is a mustang nut...I believe he is switching to something bigger...he is not stressing for.money and he said if I didn't buy it he was putting it online for 1000$... He is going to sell to me for 600$...fresh motor...here is what it consist of... Stock block n rods.... Keith black forged pistons .....trick flow stage 2 cam.... trick flow push rods .....dbl roller timing chain.... 351 winsor heads ....stock valve covers ....cromoly rings ...arp head studs....I'm sure this is a great deal...correct? I don't know much about the name brand but I know a lot about cars and can drop this motor in my car easily alone...I just don't know anything about the brand and quality of what this motor comes with nor have I took up the time to research it...so please don't call me an idiot...thanks and all feedback is appreciated .
It sounds like it should be worth the money.
My concern about buying engines pre-built from individuals is that you don't really ever know how well they are put together.

The 351W heads are ok, but if they haven't been ported or fitted with larger valves they are not much if any better than the E7 factory 5.0 heads.

Overall it appears to be a good deal and if you trust the assembler then you are good to go.
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I wanted to know would a gt40p intake work well with this setup...and what's the difference between gt40 & gt40p....I read the gt40p was the one u need...how do u know the difference and is their a difference.... and what year explorer can I get this off of... Also, what throttle body and Maf do you think will work best with this setup..
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I wanted to know would a gt40p intake work well with this setup...and what's the difference between gt40 & gt40p....I read the gt40p was the one u need...how do u know the difference and is their a difference.... and what year explorer can I get this off of... Also, what throttle body and Maf do you think will work best with this setup..
gt40p heads came off of an explorer..thats the only difference i can think of
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I think 96-98.the p's are better because they have a revised spark plug angle to more center the plug in the cumbustion chamber.but that makes them more of a pain when putting headers on.but I do have them with no complaints.
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The gt40 Tubular intake is the better one!
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The gt40 Tubular intake is the better one!
Definitely looks better, but doesn't flow too much more than the cobra or explorer gt40.

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I wanted to know would a gt40p intake work well with this setup...and what's the difference between gt40 & gt40p....I read the gt40p was the one u need...how do u know the difference and is their a difference.... and what year explorer can I get this off of... Also, what throttle body and Maf do you think will work best with this setup..
Gt40& gt40p are referring to the heads, the intake is just gt40. I would use a 65mm tb with the intake, with a 73mm maf.
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There are a lot of explorers in the junkyard out here...I just wanna make sure I pull the right one..and how would I know...are there any numbers on it or anything to tell the difference
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Definitely looks better, but doesn't flow too much more than the cobra or explorer gt40.

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Gt40& gt40p are referring to the heads, the intake is just gt40. I would use a 65mm tb with the intake, with a 73mm maf.
haha,yeah he is talking about the intake.the gt40 and gt40p threw me off
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There are a lot of explorers in the junkyard out here...I just wanna make sure I pull the right one..and how would I know...are there any numbers on it or anything to tell the difference
The heads and intake off any 5.0 explorer will work. Either mid 96 or 97 they changed to gt40p heads which make header choices a pain in the rear due to the spark plug angle. Gt40 heads have 3 vertical bars on the ends and gr40p have 4.

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I went to the yard and luckily found a 5.0 Explorer...I got the upper and lower intake for 40$ with the TB...I'm posting a pic because I've seen the gt40 intake with a passge in the middle of the upper intake..and I've seen ones with the hole in the middle.. what's the difference? Minds has the hole in the middle..is this the right one? Also, I heard the explorer has a 65mm TB and with a little modification you can use it in mustang...is this true? Thanks and any feedback is appreciated...

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I went to the yard and luckily found a 5.0 Explorer...I got the upper and lower intake for 40$ with the TB...I'm posting a pic because I've seen the gt40 intake with a passge in the middle of the upper intake..and I've seen ones with the hole in the middle.. what's the difference? Minds has the hole in the middle..is this the right one? Also, I heard the explorer has a 65mm TB and with a little modification you can use it in mustang...is this true? Thanks and any feedback is appreciated...
The hole is the egr passage, so you can still pass emissions. I am running the explorer tb on my car right now, it's really simple to modify.

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Also the intakes without a hole use an external egr system that is not compatible with the foxes. It renders the egr system useless.
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Can a intake go bad? If so, how would you know...?
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Can a intake go bad? If so, how would you know...?
Mostly just clean it up real good inside and out.there not really much to go bad.the things I would look out for are mating surfaces and check for cracks and leaks.
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