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Old 01-21-2012, 02:54 PM   #1
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Procharger or 347?? 94 GT

Like it says I'm having a hard time desiding what I want to do. Option 1.. Procharger with sporting mods and tune around 5k total. Option B... DSS 347 long block AFR 185 heads TF track heat intake with there lvl 20 block package(fully forged rotating acembly, main support system, ext) around $7600 total I'm assuming. My curent 302 has the track heat intake on it with full exhaust headers back with around 117k miles and is not abused and still runs fine. Just I am leaning to the procharger now and maybe a new motor next year just don't know how long the stock 302 might hold together with 11psi. Any input would be great as to what people have done in either rout and what kind of power/ reliability they made with similar setups thanks!!!
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Like it says I'm having a hard time desiding what I want to do. Option 1.. Procharger with sporting mods and tune around 5k total. Option B... DSS 347 long block AFR 185 heads TF track heat intake with there lvl 20 block package(fully forged rotating acembly, main support system, ext) around $7600 total I'm assuming. My curent 302 has the track heat intake on it with full exhaust headers back with around 117k miles and is not abused and still runs fine. Just I am leaning to the procharger now and maybe a new motor next year just don't know how long the stock 302 might hold together with 11psi. Any input would be great as to what people have done in either rout and what kind of power/ reliability they made with similar setups thanks!!!
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My dad had a stock 302 block with tf intake, heads, e303 cam. A bd10 powerdyne running 9 psi witb #42 injectors and he made 500hp. Ran it for 3 years before a lifter collapsed
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Wow nice
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DSS has a entry level 331 & 347 forged stroked shortblock for around $2000-$2,200 fully assembled with new AFR heads and a good intake (600-$700 intake) that's roughly around $4,500 , save the procharger for later so you don't do it twice!!!!
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DSS has a entry level 331 & 347 forged stroked shortblock for around $2000-$2,200 fully assembled with new AFR heads and a good intake (600-$700 intake) that's roughly around $4,500 , save the procharger for later so you don't do it twice!!!!
Agreed.
You should use the Main Support System anyways if you are going with forced induction and I would also put the Valley Girdle Pro on it to further strengthen the block.
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Like it says I'm having a hard time desiding what I want to do. Option 1.. Procharger with sporting mods and tune around 5k total. Option B... DSS 347 long block AFR 185 heads TF track heat intake with there lvl 20 block package(fully forged rotating acembly, main support system, ext) around $7600 total I'm assuming. My curent 302 has the track heat intake on it with full exhaust headers back with around 117k miles and is not abused and still runs fine. Just I am leaning to the procharger now and maybe a new motor next year just don't know how long the stock 302 might hold together with 11psi. Any input would be great as to what people have done in either rout and what kind of power/ reliability they made with similar setups thanks!!!
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My friend you h e good taste in mods/cars. But you need guidance for sure. Deff go with the built 347. You can't go wrong with a good NA motor. Then put the procharger on the motor. I have this exact build nearly in my 95 and I make awesome power and it's very very reliable. If you have any questions do not hesitate to ask me. I been down this road before. It's time
Consuming and lots of money to be spent. But you will end up with one wicked ride that will smoke anything you meet on the street.
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Re: Procharger or 347?? 94 GT

Well if I go 347 now then unless I go dissed pistons I can't go blower later? Because if I get the 347 in the spring it would be a while before I could get the blower. But also my goal is a nice DD so maybe a nice 347 is all I need?? Anyone know what kind of power a 347 with AFR 185 and a decent cam might make??
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Well if I go 347 now then unless I go dissed pistons I can't go blower later? Because if I get the 347 in the spring it would be a while before I could get the blower. But also my goal is a nice DD so maybe a nice 347 is all I need?? Anyone know what kind of power a 347 with AFR 185 and a decent cam might make??
Well my brother in-laws 91 lx had a forged 347 stroker DSS block, AFR 205 heads, Holley system max intake he's at 423rwhp
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Well my brother in-laws 91 lx had a forged 347 stroker DSS block, AFR 205 heads, Holley system max intake he's at 423rwhp
Nice do u know what cam he is running and injector size?? I was thinking of using 36 lb injectors on almost same build just AFR 185 not 205.
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Right now he has 42lb injectors but its setup for nitrous, not sure what his CAM is but it is a high lift, I have a video of the car but I can't figure out how to upload the video besides using YouTube!!
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Ya I'm hoping for upper 300s with the AFR185 and a good street able cam as its my summer dd and don't want something that's going to be a pain if any kind of trafic u know a fun reliable motor I mean I look at it as I'm at probably 200 rwhp with my curent mods so anything 300 and up rwhp would be sick!!
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Ya I'm hoping for upper 300s with the AFR185 and a good street able cam as its my summer dd and don't want something that's going to be a pain if any kind of trafic u know a fun reliable motor I mean I look at it as I'm at probably 200 rwhp with my curent mods so anything 300 and up rwhp would be sick!!
Well with a 347 stroker you will definitely be in mid to upper 300rwhp range
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I know I can't wait to feel the new power, the highest hp stang iv been in is my friends trick flow hci 306 and that only dynoed at 305rwhp and he just broke the 12s mark in 1/4
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Re: Procharger or 347?? 94 GT

generally building the motor to take a supercharger in the future works out good
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generally building the motor to take a supercharger in the future works out good
Well if I build it with dished pistons how much am I going to sacrifice untill I get the blower which might be another winter away from happening??
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Well I'm looking into a 331 from frpp built with the boss block for extra support. And might put SC on it so someone answer his question on the dished pistons. And I'm prolly either goin with a comp cam or f303 cam possibly. With afr heads. Holly systemax intake with 30lb injectors. FYI just the boss 331 is almost $5000. For a short block. And 331 instead of 347 just for extra meat on cylinder walls. Just incase something happens.
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The dished pistons are just to lower the compression ratio.as long as your not more than 9-1 you will be ok.it is still a good idea to run forged pistons with a s/c.
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Well a 347 flat top piston will likely be 10.5-1 so I would not be able to run boost safely unless using dish pistons.
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Well a 347 flat top piston will likely be 10.5-1 so I would not be able to run boost safely unless using dish pistons.
You can still run a SC, but your "safe" boost level will be lower.


See the links below to pages with information about supercharging.


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If it were my decission id split the diffrence and build a 331 with full forged inturnals and 9/1 or8.5/1 compression put a blowzilla 2.2 kb on top and have fun with about 600hp now if u cant afford the blower and the motor build the 331 up with 9/1 dished pistons and use the ford racing f-303 cam this is a good cam for blower applacations but is still very nice for n/a applacations with 8/1 compression pistons 14psi on the blower should be ok with 8.5/1 id go 10-12 psi and 9/1 prolly 8-10 psi on the blower
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Well after looking around I found this FORD RACING BOSS 302 - 345 HP PERFORMANCE CRATE ENGINE ASSEMBLY -- M-6007-X302B and am really considering it. It's $150 more then the dss 347 I was looking at and it has a boss block and fully forged internals, so I could get this now and then put a procharger on it next winter and have a sweet DD that's also reliable.
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Well after looking around I found this FORD RACING BOSS 302 - 345 HP PERFORMANCE CRATE ENGINE ASSEMBLY -- M-6007-X302B and am really considering it. It's $150 more then the dss 347 I was looking at and it has a boss block and fully forged internals, so I could get this now and then put a procharger on it next winter and have a sweet DD that's also reliable.
Nice.that should do the trick.
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That's what I was looking at too
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Well after looking around I found this FORD RACING BOSS 302 - 345 HP PERFORMANCE CRATE ENGINE ASSEMBLY -- M-6007-X302B and am really considering it. It's $150 more then the dss 347 I was looking at and it has a boss block and fully forged internals, so I could get this now and then put a procharger on it next winter and have a sweet DD that's also reliable.
That will definitely do the trick.
That combo should be able to handle almost anything you wish to throw at it.
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And with free shipping I'm also saving a boat load plus the 347 dident come with oil pan pump ext.. So will through my track heat intake on it with some 30lb injectors and have some fun this summer!!!!
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