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Old 03-04-2012, 09:25 PM   #1
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new headers

well im thinking about getting new headers and im wondering whats a good choice, long tube or shorty headers, and what company to get
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Long tubes give u more hp than shorties
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Old 03-04-2012, 10:06 PM   #3
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Re: new headers

ive been looking at long tube bbks im debating
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Well I'm goin with the summit brand long tubes with summit brand o/r X-pipe mainly cause there cheap and don't care what they look like in 2 months cause I'm prolly gonna wrap them in exhaust wrap anyway.
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probably a good choice.ive heard a few people running them here where pretty happy with them.

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Well I'm goin with the summit brand long tubes with summit brand o/r X-pipe mainly cause there cheap and don't care what they look like in 2 months cause I'm prolly gonna wrap them in exhaust wrap anyway.
i have summit shortys and they work fine.but i have the chrome ones and the chrome job is half a**.but that didnt bother me because i scored them new off ebay for 30$.
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Old 03-04-2012, 10:16 PM   #6
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Yea the long tubes are only like $130 and x pipe is like $150-175 or something like that. And really I want it to work lol don't care if the nice a shiny cause all of them either peel chip or burn off or turn colors at some point. I have a set of hooker super comp headers for my 77 and there like 5 yes old and only way you can tell there hooker over summit is the tag that says hooker. They look like rusted headers lol. And I'm not building a show car. Besides like I said I'm prolly gonna wrap them in exhaust wrap anyway to help keep my starter cooler
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Old 03-04-2012, 10:23 PM   #7
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Well I'm goin with the summit brand long tubes with summit brand o/r X-pipe mainly cause there cheap and don't care what they look like in 2 months cause I'm prolly gonna wrap them in exhaust wrap anyway.
I was litterally just on summit looking at an o/r x pipe and long tube headers lol
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Yea the long tubes are only like $130 and x pipe is like $150-175 or something like that. And really I want it to work lol don't care if the nice a shiny cause all of them either peel chip or burn off or turn colors at some point. I have a set of hooker super comp headers for my 77 and there like 5 yes old and only way you can tell there hooker over summit is the tag that says hooker. They look like rusted headers lol. And I'm not building a show car. Besides like I said I'm prolly gonna wrap them in exhaust wrap anyway to help keep my starter cooler


I would install a heat shield on the the starter instead.
In my experience with wrapped headers I found that the wrap holds moisture and makes the headers rust out pretty quickly.
I have a local guy who powder coats and he claims they now have powder coat that will stand up to exhaust heat on headers. I might give that a try.


I would go with long tube headers.
You can spend as much or as little as you want.
If money were not an issue I would choose a good stainless steel header set.
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I would install a heat shield on the the starter instead.
In my experience with wrapped headers I found that the wrap holds moisture and makes the headers rust out pretty quickly.
I have a local guy who powder coats and he claims they now have powder coat that will stand up to exhaust heat on headers. I might give that a try.

I would go with long tube headers.
You can spend as much or as little as you want.
If money were not an issue I would choose a good stainless steel header set.
+1. I picked up a starter blanket from summit for 17$ and its easier to install
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Humm starter blanket. Didn't think of that
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Humm starter blanket. Didn't think of that
That's why we are all here. We can all learn from each other.
Plus you guys help keep my memory spasms to a minimum.
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Old 03-04-2012, 11:12 PM   #12
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Are the summit headers good
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Are the summit headers good
They're as good or better than any other inexpensive header.
Check Jegs too and see who's headers are cheaper.
I'd bet the build quality is the same.
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Yea the jegs brand and summit brand or same price wouldn't dought it's the same header with different stickers lol
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Old 03-05-2012, 07:43 AM   #15
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Yea they around the same price but wat about hp gains vs the brand name like bbk hooker etc..
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:09 AM   #16
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Long tubes are long tubes they same size piping it's all quality of material and coatings
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:27 AM   #17
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BBK makes a set of long tubes that are 1 3/4" instead of the standard 1 5/8" for higher HP, larger cubic inch applications. These are what I plan to use on my 86 GT when I install the supercharger. Other manufacturers make them with 1 7/8" and larger tubes, but the prices also escalate accordingly and they are not suitable for most street driven applications.


HP gains will depend entirely on the engine build and end purpose.
The larger tubes are better for all out, high RPM/HP race engines and the smaller tubes are better suited to lower HP, moderate RPM street engines.
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:56 AM   #18
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Love this discussion because for people on a tight budget we can't always afford to party for the name on a part. I myself am making my own x pipe and going with summit long tube headers into 10 series flowmaster but also I found a knock off flowmaster looks the same but im wondering if they sound the same...

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Ment pay for the name on the part. Lol auto spell
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Old 03-05-2012, 09:12 AM   #19
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Yea if you have the tools to make your own I say go for it. But as for myself I went to the muffler shop here in town and asked how much he'd make one for me he said it would cost somewhere in neighborhood of $250. So cheap route for me is the summit/Jegs brand X-pipe. And headers
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I haven't installed the larger tube headers before but I have a hunch it would be a pita.with the 1 5/8 there is already barely any room.but I'm sure its plenty doable.

Another thing that sux is the dipstick tube gets in the way.I gave up and ordered a lokar flexible dipstick.most people won't go this route cause the are very pricey.but they do look sexy.
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O for sure I have a ton of Steele and piping exhaust piping etc. we build demo derby cars so we have tons of scrap laying around. Also when I bought my mustang it has straight pipe from the stock manifolds dumped into 40 series flowmasters so when I take all of that off illl be able to cut fabricate and weld to make my own I also found a cross over xpipe on Ebay for about 30 dollars might give that a try and see bow it sounds for 30 bucks if it works great if not it was only 30 dollars here is the link http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-25-X-PIPE-...-/140714669814
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O for sure I have a ton of Steele and piping exhaust piping etc. we build demo derby cars so we have tons of scrap laying around. Also when I bought my mustang it has straight pipe from the stock manifolds dumped into 40 series flowmasters so when I take all of that off illl be able to cut fabricate and weld to make my own I also found a cross over xpipe on Ebay for about 30 dollars might give that a try and see bow it sounds for 30 bucks if it works great if not it was only 30 dollars here is the link 2.25" X PIPE CROSSOVER EXHAUST HIGH FLOW 2 1/4 in HIGH QUALITY CROSS OVER NEW | eBay
That's kinda' small. 2.5" is the "normal" as it were aftermarket exhaust size for Mustangs.
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They also have 3" I just copied a link to the first one I came across so u can ses what I was talking about. Any thoughts on these think it will work
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They also have 3" I just copied a link to the first one I came across so u can ses what I was talking about. Any thoughts on these think it will work
That will work or you can just cut the back out of a couple of elbows and weld them together.
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Nice the soul purpose of an x pipe is to even the sound and flow of your exhaust correct?
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Nice the soul purpose of an x pipe is to even the sound and flow of your exhaust correct?
Yes, it actually balances out the exhaust pulses to improve sound and flow.
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Old 03-15-2012, 04:21 PM   #27
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Just ordered my Xpipe and long tubes
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Niiiiice what kind ?
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Summit brand long tubes summit brand xpipe and trickflow 1 in spacer
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Post a sound clip when you get them installed !!
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Ok I think they gonna sound good with my flowmasters. Especially with the special cut lunati cam I'm gonna install
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