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Old 03-06-2012, 08:50 PM   #1
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UMI upper and Lowers

Just a tip lol I ordered some UMI adjustable upper and lower control arms and realized tonight they have to be welded in.
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which one are these? they come with torque box reinforcments?
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Old 03-06-2012, 09:26 PM   #3
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No torque box reinforcements they have to be drilled and bolted or welded to axle and come with quarter inch steel plate so no easily drilled
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yeah that kinda sucks.as long as you have a good bit the 1/4 shouldnt be to hard to drill.im not sure of the procedure though cause i never really looked into these.
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UMI Performance 101516-B - UMI Performance Rear Adjustable Lower and Non-Adjustable Upper Control Arm Kits

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Sorry UMI not UPI
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Old 03-06-2012, 09:33 PM   #6
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ahhh. that name sounds more familiar. i have the lowers but i think they are direct bolt in.
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I thought they were lol but it's cool at least I know there pretty stout.
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Old 03-06-2012, 09:36 PM   #8
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summit racing says direct bolt on

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/UPI-101516-B/
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Old 03-06-2012, 09:53 PM   #9
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I know they do direct bolt on to brackets sent but brackets don't bolt on lol.
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well thats crap.lol
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Ok I made a mistake it's just the lowers and it's not the regular lower control arm it's the lower lift bars
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the lift bars are the ones i got.
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UMI Performance 1025-B - UMI Performance 1979-1998 Ford Mustang Rear Lift Bars

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That's what I'm installing as we speak

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So how r they. I heard you have increases road noise
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I haven't installed them yet.haha.your gonna have to tell me first.I seen Trojan recommend them so many times I decided to give them hell.I am still finishing my motor upgrades now.so I wanted to drive it a little before I install so I can get a good before and after.

Let me know how the install goes and if I need to know anything special when your done.
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Old 03-06-2012, 10:41 PM   #15
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My quad shocks or gone lol 1st thing first lol. But putting adjustable uppers and the lower lift bars subframe connectors torque box reinforcement kit 3:73 gears and I did install new spring isolators too. I decided to do rear suspension before engine mods. So everything will hold up to the strain of my engine mods.
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Re: UPI upper and Lowers

You don't have to weld in the new ones.

See this page - UMI #1025 Lift Bars


Yes, there is a small increase in road noise.
But you won't hear that over your manly, growling exhaust anyways right?


Yes, they are a bit harder on the torque boxes.
But you planned on reinforcing those anyways because that's a known weak area right?


Maybe I'm a bit over enthusiastic about them, BUT! they work and will plant your tires harder than any other bars on the market IMO.


This picture, there are more pics at the bottom of the page in the link above, shows the installation with bolts only.
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Yea my exhaust is pretty loud so should be ok with the noise And yea don't have to be welded in but have to drill through the plate so just welded them in myself
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Yea my exhaust is pretty loud so should be ok with the noise And yea don't have to be welded in but have to drill through the plate so just welded them in myself
Mine are welded in too, because it was easier than drilling and I had a welder handy.


Those plates serve to relocate the "instant center" of the car which is what makes these lift bars perform better than standard control arms.
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I Will do the same.I weld by trade and have a nice setup in the garage.

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Ps. I was thinking more that you just just stick by your parts.not overenthusiastic.but that works to.
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I Will do the same.I weld by trade and have a nice setup in the garage.

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Ps. I was thinking more that you just just stick by your parts.not overenthusiastic.but that works to.
I'm always thrilled to find something that really works as advertised.
I have the standard MIG welder and cutting torch, been eyeballing a Plasma cutter too.
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I would love to have a plasma.I do have access to a really nice one at work though.
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Hey Trojan,what was the original name of these arms? Was it Southside lift bars?
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Hey Trojan,what was the original name of these arms? Was it Southside lift bars?
Yes it was.


What they do, is lower the rear mounting point of the rear lower control arms, modifying the vehicles instant center. The instant center of the vehicle is the point at which imaginary lines drawn to extend the vehicles upper and lower control arms would meet. The Lift Bars cause this imaginary point to move toward the rear of the vehicle, reducing the tendency of the rear of the vehicle to squat during hard acceleration. Power normally absorbed in suspension compression is instead applied to the suspension mounting points, driving the rear tires downward and significantly improving traction.
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:46 PM   #24
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Definently install these with torque box reinforcement kit. If you put these on without reinforcement kit you will rip the torque boxes out lol
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Definently install these with torque box reinforcement kit. If you put these on without reinforcement kit you will rip the torque boxes out lol
Did you rip them out?
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Thankfully I didn't but you can sure feel the difference just coming off the clutch easy. Feels like the rearend just wants to come out. Back of car raises up pushes tires down and just wants to go. And that was just backing out of shop to test drive. Now when I get back from work in two weeks the reinforcement kit and subframes are goin on. After that rear suspension should be damn near bullet proof
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awsome.i cant wait to get mine installed.it may be a few weeks till i get around to it or longer.i plan on fabbing my own reinforcments and subframes.
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Well I spent the $100 on the same brand reinforcement kit and spent I think 130 on maximum motorsport full length subframe connectors because I may or may not buy the maximum motorsport torque arm and want to make sure I had right size connectors for the torque arm if I bought it.
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yeah thats a good idea. those parts are pretty cheap.i am just a tight wod.lol i just so happen to have some good tubing laying around so i figured id put it to use.
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Yea I fabed my own on my 77. Lol
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Thankfully I didn't but you can sure feel the difference just coming off the clutch easy. Feels like the rearend just wants to come out. Back of car raises up pushes tires down and just wants to go. And that was just backing out of shop to test drive. Now when I get back from work in two weeks the reinforcement kit and subframes are goin on. After that rear suspension should be damn near bullet proof
Wait till you launch hard with them.


You might want to think about the LPW Ultimate rear end cover too.
It will help support your carrier bearings, stiffen the housing and you can run bars from it to the ends of your axle tubes for more support.


You can find them on the Strange Engineering website in their catalog on page 60.
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Hell I my fab my own torque arm. Haven't decided yet but seems pretty simple
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nice.i havent fabbed any up yet.so i will be doing that for the first time.
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Not hard make sure ends are capped
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Not hard make sure ends are capped
Got it.
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