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Old 06-02-2012, 01:57 AM   #71
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Everything is back together, just need to put the Trans fluid in and button up the interior. Can't wait to drive her again. Waited long enough. Thanks again everyone for your help.
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Old 06-02-2012, 07:38 AM   #72
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Good to use or not?
Yup that's the stuff...seems weird buying atf for a manual doesn't it?..ive never put any in mine only because if its full DON'T change it...EVER!...I did lose some when changing my clutch,but not enough to even add some..

And awesome you're getting her back on the road soon...
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Old 06-02-2012, 03:03 PM   #73
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ive never put any in mine only because if its full DON'T change it...EVER!.
I always heard that about auto transmissions Steve, never for a manual?


On auto trannys they say (various sources local and online) that once you go past the 20,000 mile change intervals your are better off to just let them be and only add fluid as needed. I don't remember the exact reasoning for that thinking, but I have changed the fluid in a couple of high mileage auto trannys and had issues with them afterward. I suppose it probably breaks up deposits in the transmissions and the debris gets into the valve body causing problems with the valves and check balls.
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Old 06-02-2012, 03:43 PM   #74
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Ok, took the car for a ride and it drives fine. Only problem I have is once it warms up, I hear a noise coming from the bell housing. Thinking the tob might have came off the clips on the clutch fork during install. Would this cause the noise I'm hearing? Thx

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Noise also stays consistent whether or not the clutch is disengaged or engaged. Any idea what is causing this noise? Thx
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Ok, took the car for a ride and it drives fine. Only problem I have is once it warms up, I hear a noise coming from the bell housing. Thinking the tob might have came off the clips on the clutch fork during install. Would this cause the noise I'm hearing? Thx

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Noise also stays consistent whether or not the clutch is disengaged or engaged. Any idea what is causing this noise? Thx
Possibly is the cause, you should check it out before it damages something.
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Old 06-02-2012, 05:48 PM   #76
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Took pictures, hope you can see the tob. Everything looks good. I don't understand why it only makes noise when it's warmed up. I know metal expands when really hot, but damn.

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Took pictures, hope you can see the tob. Everything looks good. I don't understand why it only makes noise when it's warmed up. I know metal expands when really hot, but damn.

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Is the clutch adjusted properly? You don't want the TOB riding on the pressure plate all the time.
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I adjusted the firewall adjuster screw. When I first drove it after the new tob, the clutch would catch just as the pedal was coming up all the way. Fixed that problem, but idk why it's making that racket. Tob is riding on the pressure plate when clutch is engaged. How do I solve that problem? Thx
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I adjusted the firewall adjuster screw. When I first drove it after the new tob, the clutch would catch just as the pedal was coming up all the way. Fixed that problem, but idk why it's making that racket. Tob is riding on the pressure plate when clutch is engaged. How do I solve that problem? Thx
Look in the "Useful Info" sticky thread for "Clutch Cable Freeplay Mod".
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I'll try it out. Sux
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I'll try it out. Sux
It's not hard to do and is usually required with a firewall adjuster and aftermarket quadrant and cable. Sorry I didn't remember that earlier.
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Old 06-03-2012, 09:18 PM   #82
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I have the adjustable firewall adjuster. I'm not sure if I have the quadrant on the pedal. I'll check. Ordered that clutch freeplay correction kit. Try that out when it comes in.
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Old 06-04-2012, 01:40 AM   #83
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Also, if I do have the 3 hook quadrant, is it possible I could adjust it from there also? I hope I have one installed already.
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Old 06-04-2012, 02:43 PM   #84
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I have the stock plastic quadrant. Might get a 3 hooked quadrant off Ebay. 25 bucks.
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Also, if I do have the 3 hook quadrant, is it possible I could adjust it from there also? I hope I have one installed already.
There is some adjustment at the quadrant, but your main adjustment will be at the firewall adjuster.


Be careful with the cheap eBay stuff.
Fitment and durability is likely to be an issue with them.
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:03 PM   #86
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Yea, its a bbk new. I only get brand name stuff off Ebay. Learned my lesson with that cheap *** fuel pump ha, thx
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This is with the car in neutral and clutch pedal is all the way up. Firewall adjuster is tightened up almost all the way.
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Sorry I can't watch the video where I am at now. But ii will check it out later.
You say adjusted all the way tight? Do you have any free play in the pedal? Because if you tighten the clutch to tight your tob is gonna be riding on the pressure plate all the time. And it shouldn't. A good adjusted clutch should have minimun of 1/2" freeplay at the top of the pedal.
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Sorry I can't watch the video where I am at now. But ii will check it out later.
You say adjusted all the way tight? Do you have any free play in the pedal? Because if you tighten the clutch to tight your tob is gonna be riding on the pressure plate all the time. And it shouldn't. A good adjusted clutch should have minimun of 1/2" freeplay at the top of the pedal.
"freeplay" Is that where you should be able to put the clutch in 1/2 to 1" and the clutch does not disengage?
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I meant I turned the adjuster clockwise. The more I counter clockwise the adjuster, it sits even harder on the pressure plate.

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I have free play in the pedal. It grabs about less than half way up. Feels good
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You do NOT want the TOB riding on the pressure plate and constantly spinning, it will wear out very quickly like that. The freeplay correction kit should cure that issue.
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You do NOT want the TOB riding on the pressure plate and constantly spinning, it will wear out very quickly like that. The freeplay correction kit should cure that issue.
Would this make a typical bad TOB noise? Could it make a metallic noise that goes away when drivetrain warms up?
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Would this make a typical bad TOB noise? Could it make a metallic noise that goes away when drivetrain warms up?
Yes it could.
I fought that noise and TOB issues for years on numerous old cars........until I learned how to "PROPERLY" adjust a clutch.
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Yes it could.
I fought that noise and TOB issues for years on numerous old cars........until I learned how to "PROPERLY" adjust a clutch.
Thanks for the info. I saw your reply on a thread within the last few days about Maximum Motorsports clutch cable & quadrant kit. I think I'll get that and install it. If the noise is still there, then I'll get a pro to take a look at it. I'm feeling pretty good that it's something to do with the clutch, etc.
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Thanks for the info. I saw your reply on a thread within the last few days about Maximum Motorsports clutch cable & quadrant kit. I think I'll get that and install it. If the noise is still there, then I'll get a pro to take a look at it. I'm feeling pretty good that it's something to do with the clutch, etc.
Also get the firewall clutch cable adjuster and fabricate or buy the freeplay kit to ensure you get the most adjustment and that you can keep the TOB off of the pressure plate when the clutch is released.
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I bought the freeplay kit, I just hope it works. Hope it's here before the weekend comes. Looks like just a spring with a plastic nipple right? Thanks again
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I bought the freeplay kit, I just hope it works. Hope it's here before the weekend comes. Looks like just a spring with a plastic nipple right? Thanks again
Yes, it serves to hold the clutch arm back from pushing the TOB into the pressure plate when the clutch is engaged.
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Yes, it serves to hold the clutch arm back from pushing the TOB into the pressure plate when the clutch is engaged.
Thanks for all this info Trojan?

MM kit...
http://www.maximummotorsports.com/st...roducts_id=385

Freeplay kit...
http://www.lethalperformance.com/ldc...ction-kit.html

Did some searching too, found this from lowflyn on how to make your own free play correction...
How to make your own clutch freeplay kit

Good forum

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Thanks for all this info Trojan?

MM kit...
http://www.maximummotorsports.com/st...roducts_id=385

Freeplay kit...
http://www.lethalperformance.com/ldc...ction-kit.html

Did some searching too, found this from lowflyn on how to make your own free play correction...
How to make your own clutch freeplay kit

Good forum
Supposed to be,

Thanks for all this info Trojan >>>!<<< not ?
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I checked and I have a steeda quadrant also. Now I did notice that my clutch cable is not adjustable at the fork. Only on the firewall. I'm going to get an adjustable one and use that freeplay spring. That should deff fix the tob riding on the pressure plate fingers all the time.
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Just put my new clutch cable on today. Oiled it up pretty good. Still haven't received my freeplay spring. Might just go to Lowes and get the spring and plastic piece. Using a small bungee cord to hold the clutch fork off of the pressure plate. Works like a charm for now.
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Just put my new clutch cable on today. Oiled it up pretty good. Still haven't received my freeplay spring. Might just go to Lowes and get the spring and plastic piece. Using a small bungee cord to hold the clutch fork off of the pressure plate. Works like a charm for now.
Sorry, but oiling the cable may have been a mistake.

The petroleum based oil may damage the plastic liner in the cable.

If you use anything, use a Teflon or Silicone based oil or grease and even then you don't want to use much as it will attract and hold dust and debris.
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Old 06-15-2012, 02:46 AM   #102
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I used silicone based. Buddy of mine suggested it. Should be good.
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