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Old 07-05-2012, 11:04 PM   #106
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Dropped a valve huh? Like I said before I can probably get a used 70k mile full bone stock motor for about 300-350$. I don't remember exactly. I might be able to have home send me pics I could forward to you. It's a little rusty.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:05 PM   #107
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Yes, it seems that way. Yes, I'd like a pic or two if you don't mind.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:11 PM   #108
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This guy works swing shift. So ill text him tomorrow. He has it in his storage so it may take just a couple days, just so you know.

You sure you wanna go back stock? I also know of a bronco for sale with a built 351w and blown head gasket for about 1300$ for whole truck.the truck is pretty partable to retrieve lost money. I can get pics of that quick to. This guy is my best friend and in need of cash.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:13 PM   #109
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The problem with me taking on something like the bronco is that I do not have space to mess with it, sounds like a great deal though.
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Old 07-05-2012, 11:22 PM   #110
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The problem with me taking on something like the bronco is that I do not have space to mess with it, sounds like a great deal though.
Yeah. It's been rotting away for a while to. It does have lift kit, 9" rear, aode. Lots of parts to part out but lots of work.
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:34 AM   #111
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Re: 91 5.0 Knocking sound

Dayum, that sux!


These guys may have something. Note: I don't know much about them or how trustworthy they are so be careful.


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Old 07-06-2012, 08:50 PM   #112
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Guys,

I made a huge sacrifice today for a good cause though.

I sold a couple of guns this morning.

Then I picked up an assembled DSS 331 stroker kit in a "New" Ford SVO block. Tomorrows gonna be busy.
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:54 PM   #113
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Guys,

I made a huge sacrifice today for a good cause though.

I sold a couple of guns this morning.

Then I picked up an assembled DSS 331 stroker kit in a "New" Ford SVO block. Tomorrows gonna be busy.
Nice...for that I can justify parting with the firearms!....
What kind of guns if ya don't mind me askin?..
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:59 PM   #114
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are the internals forged?

regardless f'n nice though!

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hope you know we are gonna want full details of the build again. dont forget you will need a tune again also.
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:01 PM   #115
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Forged pistons and rods, they only give a forged crank above 800 hp or so.

I will deffinitely have pics tomorrow

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Browning .308 the real Belgium one, not Japanese and a Ruger Blackhawk .357, plus I kicked in a little cash.
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:03 PM   #116
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Forged pistons and rods, they only give a forged crank above 800 hp or so.

I will deffinitely have pics tomorrow

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Browning .308 the real Belgium one, not Japanese and a Ruger Blackhawk .357, plus I kicked in a little cash.
thats awsome man. to bad you couldnt squeeze a nice cam and heads with that setup and you would be in some serious power! but either way its gonna be sick! :drool:
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:04 PM   #117
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It came with a nice cam, it's the one from the Holley systemic kit. I think it's a lunati. Heads will come later. My car will make plenty of power with the factory top end.
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It came with a nice cam, it's the one from the Holley systemic kit. I think it's a lunati. Heads will come later. My car will make plenty of power with the factory top end.
For sure it will be nice setup. I'm sure your squeezed already with the whole mess.

Yeah Holley makes lunati, along with about 6 other major company's.
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:09 PM   #119
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Yes no money left whatsoever. Gonna have to drill for oil to lubricate the engine
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:16 PM   #120
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Yes no money left whatsoever. Gonna have to drill for oil to lubricate the engine
haha. better get to drilling then!
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:38 PM   #121
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This engine has a 28oz balance, do I just bolt my clutch on and drop it in or do I need to move my flywheel and 50oz balancer over?
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Very nice turn the boost up.
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Old 07-06-2012, 09:42 PM   #123
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I might go to 10lbs since its forged now.
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Old 07-06-2012, 10:53 PM   #124
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This engine has a 28oz balance, do I just bolt my clutch on and drop it in or do I need to move my flywheel and 50oz balancer over?
The flywheel and harmonic balancer will both have to be 28 oz. on your new engine.
As long as you got both with the deal you should be ok.
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Old 07-08-2012, 07:34 AM   #125
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Old 07-08-2012, 07:40 AM   #126
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The only thing I can't find online is the dish on my pistons. They are Probe Forged model 13607-030. I think they are -4cc but am not positive. Any thoughts?
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The only thing I can't find online is the dish on my pistons. They are Probe Forged model 13607-030. I think they are -4cc but am not positive. Any thoughts?
Are they SRS or FPS pistons and are you sure about the number?
I cannot find that particular number anywhere, even on the Probe website.

You could always get them flat and level, then fill them with water from a syringe to see what they are.

P.S. I don't see a dish on those pistons and this picture of a used set of the same number doesn't show a dish, just valve reliefs.


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Old 07-08-2012, 08:18 AM   #128
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Not sure they are forged, say probe and that number is on the top. This kit is actually from about 3 years ago and was never used.

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Okay, that looks like it. I need to figure what my compression ratio might be wit stock heads.
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Not sure they are forged, say probe and that number is on the top. This kit is actually from about 3 years ago and was never used.
I'm pretty sure they are forged.
I think they are just an older set and they have changed the number on newer sets.


They don't appear to be dished though.
The only way to get the specs that I know of would be to call Probe.
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Old 07-08-2012, 08:37 AM   #130
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uh oh so this would be a high compression motor?

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Using stock 58cc heads until I replenish the budget.

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It also had forged rods and the crank is stamped HD, any idea what that's about?
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uh oh so this would be a high compression motor?

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Using stock 58cc heads until I replenish the budget.

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It also had forged rods and the crank is stamped HD, any idea what that's about?
Possibly, I think Summit has a compression calculator on their website with their pistons.
Not sure what the HD means. It could be a high nodular iron, cast steel or possibly a forged crank. A forged crank is a lot "smoother" than a cast crank. The surface is not as cratered and rough as cast.
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:32 AM   #132
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I think this one is cast because it does have a rough surface. If my engine with these small heads ends up being 10.1 instead of 9.1 will that be bad with my turbo? I will eventually buy better heads and bring the ratio down just not right now.
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I think this one is cast because it does have a rough surface. If my engine with these small heads ends up being 10.1 instead of 9.1 will that be bad with my turbo? I will eventually buy better heads and bring the ratio down just not right now.
10.1 is a bit high. But imo you should still be ok. As long as the parts are forged. Even if the crank isn't you prolly still be fine. Usuaaly the rods and pistons are the first to go.

I don't know if they are recommended bit they do sell thicker head gaskets to help bump down the compression a little. But this isn't my area of expertise so maybe someone else can tell you better.
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Old 07-08-2012, 12:25 PM   #134
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It's forged rods an pistons and all arp bolts with the dss girdle. I think it'll hold up. Also for now I'm sticking with the stock heads so I'm sort of limited on the power I can make. If I keep it in the 300-400hp range for now I think I'd be okay?
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:05 PM   #135
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A stock crank will usually outlast a stock block(500hp ish). So you should be fine.

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Of course you already know but the tune is key
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Old 07-08-2012, 01:20 PM   #136
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Haha, oh boy do I know!
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Haha, oh boy do I know!
Unfortunatly you had to learn the hard way.
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I think this one is cast because it does have a rough surface. If my engine with these small heads ends up being 10.1 instead of 9.1 will that be bad with my turbo? I will eventually buy better heads and bring the ratio down just not right now.
It will be ok, just keep the boost pressure down and don't let it detonate.
A methanol injection system would help.


They are supercharging newer engines with higher compression ratios and getting by just fine. The old adage "You have to have low compression ratios to use forced induction." is just not true anymore. Now they know how to tune for it and make it work.
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It will be ok, just keep the boost pressure down and don't let it detonate.
A methanol injection system would help.

They are supercharging newer engines with higher compression ratios and getting by just fine. The old adage "You have to have low compression ratios to use forced induction." is just not true anymore. Now they know how to tune for it and make it work.
Not to disagree, especially cause I'm no expert. But I still think its better to have lower compression ratio. I know u know this. But just want to make sure he is still careful after what happened last time

But with that said I also think it will be fine. All this said with respect as a boost virgin. Lol
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Old 07-08-2012, 09:31 PM   #140
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I'm sticking with my 8.5lbs, so I should be okay.
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