Gears - Page 2 - Mustang Evolution

Go Back   Mustang Evolution > 1979-2015 Mustang GT || Tech and Talk > 1979-1995 Mustang GT



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them here!
Old 06-02-2012, 12:11 PM   #36
Registered Member
Regular
 
Maddhatter88's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Region: Alabama
Posts: 157
U and me both lol dpi it little by little it's not my DD so it's easier to work on it

---------- Post added at 12:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:10 PM ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddhatter88
U and me both lol dpi it little by little it's not my DD so it's easier to work on it
Ment do it little by little
Maddhatter88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 06-02-2012, 12:13 PM   #37
Road Trip!
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Region: New York
Posts: 566
Little steps are all u need
Mady is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2012, 12:15 PM   #38
Registered Member
Regular
 
Maddhatter88's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Region: Alabama
Posts: 157
Yep get in a big rush u mess stuff up or do stuff u really dnt want to do U cut corners
Maddhatter88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 06-02-2012, 02:28 PM   #39
Registered Member
Regular
 
Maddhatter88's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Region: Alabama
Posts: 157
Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamstang
just jack the rear up. turn the tire exactly one revolution and count the exact amount of drive shaft rotation.

3 1/4 = 3.27
3 3/4 = 3.73
So if it turned 3 1/2 that means they r 3 :55 right?
Maddhatter88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2012, 02:29 PM   #40
Road Trip!
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Region: Indiana
Posts: 8,044
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddhatter88

So if it turned 3 1/2 that means they r 3 :55 right?
Yes
dreamstang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2012, 02:38 PM   #41
Registered Member
Regular
 
Maddhatter88's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Region: Alabama
Posts: 157
Ok now I finally know exactly what I have. Thanks.
Maddhatter88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2012, 02:43 PM   #42
Registered Member
Regular
 
ColeJohnson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Ketchikan, Alaska
Region: Louisiana
Posts: 2,507
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mady
I want to get 4.10 gears
We're gonna be great friends! I absolutely love my 4.10s on my '02 GT and my mpg average only went down roughly 2-3mpg.

You should check out the threads in my signature.
__________________

2016 Comp Orange GT (current)
Aurora - 2002 Boosted GT! (Sold, sadly)
ColeJohnson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2012, 02:45 PM   #43
Road Trip!
Supporter
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Region: Missouri
Posts: 8,779
Re: Gears

Here Mady, Check out this post. Don't Fear The Gear You'll be happy with the 4.10's and they don't affect your MPG as bad as some might think.
Trojan Horse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2012, 03:13 PM   #44
Registered Member
Regular
 
Maddhatter88's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Region: Alabama
Posts: 157
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trojan Horse
Here Mady, Check out this post. Don't Fear The Gear You'll be happy with the 4.10's and they don't affect your MPG as bad as some might think.
Well of his runs 80mph at like 2500 then why does mine run 3000 at 75mph?
Maddhatter88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2012, 03:14 PM   #45
Road Trip!
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Region: Indiana
Posts: 8,044
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddhatter88

Well of his runs 80mph at like 2500 then why does mine run 3000 at 75mph?
I bet you have a 4 cylinder trans.
dreamstang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2012, 03:16 PM   #46
Registered Member
Regular
 
Maddhatter88's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Region: Alabama
Posts: 157
Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamstang

I bet you have a 4 cylinder trans.
Dude said its the stock trans. Lol everything else he has said about the car has been right so far but who knows

---------- Post added at 03:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:16 PM ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamstang

I bet you have a 4 cylinder trans.
Wait will a 4banger trans even bolt up to a 5.0?
Maddhatter88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2012, 03:18 PM   #47
Road Trip!
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Region: Indiana
Posts: 8,044
It will bolt up with a ranger pilot bearing. The only thing different is the input shaft diameter.

You could pull the numbers off the metal is tag hanging near the rear of the trans.

The only other thing that could explain it is you have small tire height.
dreamstang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2012, 03:22 PM   #48
Registered Member
Regular
 
Maddhatter88's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Region: Alabama
Posts: 157
I'll look at that when I go back to the garage Monday. And yea it's got 16's on it with I think with 50 or 60 series can't remember off hand
Maddhatter88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2012, 03:23 PM   #49
Road Trip!
Supporter
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Region: Missouri
Posts: 8,779
Re: Gears

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddhatter88 View Post
Well of his runs 80mph at like 2500 then why does mine run 3000 at 75mph?
Depends on which transmission you have and the OD gear ratio.
If you are running 3k at 75, do you even have an OD transmission?
Trojan Horse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2012, 04:01 PM   #50
Registered Member
Regular
 
Maddhatter88's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Region: Alabama
Posts: 157
It's a 5 speed manual trans
Maddhatter88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2012, 04:06 PM   #51
Registered Member
Regular
 
Storm13_5.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Region: Ohio
Posts: 339
I turn 1600 @ 55 what ratio do I have ?
Storm13_5.0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2012, 04:10 PM   #52
Road Trip!
Supporter
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Region: Missouri
Posts: 8,779
Re: Gears

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddhatter88 View Post
It's a 5 speed manual trans
Get me the trans tag number, your rear end gear ratio & tire size.
Pull the rear end cover (You need to change the oil and additive anyways right?) and count the teeth on both the ring and pinion gears if you are not 100% sure of the gear ratio.


Then I can figure out what is going on.
Trojan Horse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2012, 04:12 PM   #53
Road Trip!
Supporter
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Region: Missouri
Posts: 8,779
Re: Gears

Quote:
Originally Posted by Storm13_5.0 View Post
I turn 1600 @ 55 what ratio do I have ?
Depends on what your OD gear ratio and rear tire size are.
Probably anywhere from 3.08 - 3.55
Trojan Horse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2012, 11:19 PM   #54
Registered Member
Regular
 
Storm13_5.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Region: Ohio
Posts: 339
How you find the OD ? And I have 245 45 R17's in the rear
Storm13_5.0 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2012, 12:57 AM   #55
Road Trip!
Supporter
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Region: Missouri
Posts: 8,779
Re: Gears

Quote:
Originally Posted by Storm13_5.0 View Post
How you find the OD ? And I have 245 45 R17's in the rear
If you have a 5-speed, get the numbers off of the tag on the transmission.
Trojan Horse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2012, 11:00 AM   #56
Registered Member
Regular
 
Maddhatter88's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Region: Alabama
Posts: 157
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trojan Horse

Get me the trans tag number, your rear end gear ratio & tire size.
Pull the rear end cover (You need to change the oil and additive anyways right?) and count the teeth on both the ring and pinion gears if you are not 100% sure of the gear ratio.

Then I can figure out what is going on.
Ok. 3:55 gears, borg Warner R3 13-52-066-919 trans with p215/55/r16

---------- Post added at 10:58 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:17 AM ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trojan Horse

Get me the trans tag number, your rear end gear ratio & tire size.
Pull the rear end cover (You need to change the oil and additive anyways right?) and count the teeth on both the ring and pinion gears if you are not 100% sure of the gear ratio.

Then I can figure out what is going on.
Looked it up and all I can find is it's from a 84 v8 but can't find the ratios

---------- Post added at 11:00 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:58 AM ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trojan Horse

If you have a 5-speed, get the numbers off of the tag on the transmission.
Tag numbers. L97R 7003 AA REP A11
13-52-194 25249H2293
Maddhatter88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2012, 11:02 AM   #57
Registered Member
Regular
 
WhiteCobra94's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Region: Pennsylvania
Posts: 1,435
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mady
I want to get 4.10 gears
I have 4.10s with a 3000 rpm stall, love it!!!
WhiteCobra94 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2012, 10:45 PM   #58
Road Trip!
Supporter
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Region: Missouri
Posts: 8,779
Re: Gears

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddhatter88 View Post
Ok. 3:55 gears, borg Warner R3 13-52-066-919 trans with p215/55/r16

---------- Post added at 10:58 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:17 AM ----------


Looked it up and all I can find is it's from a 84 v8 but can't find the ratios

---------- Post added at 11:00 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:58 AM ----------

Tag numbers. L97R 7003 AA REP A11
13-52-194 25249H2293
13-52-066-919 - These numbers come back as a casting number and are pretty much useless in trying to ID the transmission.


1352-194 - Ford 1989 Mustang 2.3L EFI WC, X 3.70-3.97 -2.34-1.48-1.00-0.79


As you can see that is a 4 cylinder transmission with an extremely low first gear of 3.97 and instead of the .68 OD ratio it has a .79 OD ratio, Which explains why it is revving at 3k at 75 MPH with the 3.55 gears.
Trojan Horse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2012, 11:26 PM   #59
Registered Member
Regular
 
Maddhatter88's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Region: Alabama
Posts: 157
Dude u are freaking amazing!!! I've been looking at all kinds of stuff almost al day and couldn't find nothing and obviously what I did find was wrong lol

---------- Post added at 11:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:18 PM ----------

So they dnt really hold up to much HP and TQ?
Maddhatter88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2012, 11:37 PM   #60
Road Trip!
Supporter
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Region: Missouri
Posts: 8,779
Re: Gears

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddhatter88 View Post
Dude u are freaking amazing!!! I've been looking at all kinds of stuff almost al day and couldn't find nothing and obviously what I did find was wrong lol

---------- Post added at 11:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:18 PM ----------

So they dnt really hold up to much HP and TQ?
No, that transmission won't hold up to much HP/TQ or abuse.


P.S. When searching through Google or other search engines always try various wordings for your searches. The information is almost always there, you just have to try and figure out what someone else might have called what you are searching for. Frequently fewer words will produce better results.
Trojan Horse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2012, 11:49 PM   #61
Registered Member
Regular
 
Maddhatter88's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Region: Alabama
Posts: 157
True and ok that's cool. Well if I get a trans built then I'll use those ratios. I actually like the feel of it. Just not for highway use
Maddhatter88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2012, 05:22 AM   #62
Road Trip!
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Region: Indiana
Posts: 8,044
Oh yeah. I called that one. Haha. If I were you I would drive it to it breaks. A lot of people get some good time out of them before they go.
dreamstang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2012, 08:20 AM   #63
Registered Member
Regular
 
Maddhatter88's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Region: Alabama
Posts: 157
Is there a gear ratio calculater that could give me the final drive ratio? The ones I've found just give u the rear end gear ratio
Maddhatter88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2012, 10:28 AM   #64
Road Trip!
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Region: Indiana
Posts: 8,044
You could probably just do the math. The final drive ratio will change in every gear. But the engine would be the base as 1

1 x tranny gearing = a
A x rear gear ratio = final ratio

I think this is the formula.
dreamstang is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2012, 10:50 AM   #65
Registered Member
Regular
 
Maddhatter88's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Region: Alabama
Posts: 157
Sweet thanks
Maddhatter88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2012, 11:39 AM   #66
Road Trip!
Supporter
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Region: Missouri
Posts: 8,779
Re: Gears

dreamstang is correct.

.79 x 3.55 = 2.8045 Final Drive Ratio

Note: This is not 100% exact and does not include any effects of different tire diameters.
Trojan Horse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2012, 11:52 AM   #67
Registered Member
Regular
 
Maddhatter88's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Region: Alabama
Posts: 157
Oh ok that's cool. Yea gearing stuff is new to me. So 2.8FDG is low? Like I'm used to like 4x4 and gears bein like 4:88,5:27 etc that kinda stuff nvr dipped Ito the ratios between trans and rear end. Thanks guys. A lot
Maddhatter88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2012, 12:33 PM   #68
Road Trip!
Supporter
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Region: Missouri
Posts: 8,779
Re: Gears

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddhatter88 View Post
Oh ok that's cool. Yea gearing stuff is new to me. So 2.8FDG is low? Like I'm used to like 4x4 and gears bein like 4:88,5:27 etc that kinda stuff nvr dipped Ito the ratios between trans and rear end. Thanks guys. A lot
That's not extremely low, but compared to a V8 T5 fifth gear there is a good bit of difference.


.68 x 3.55 = 2.414


In a 4WD you have 3 multipliers to go through, the rear end, transmission and the transfer box. So it gets even more complicated and the final drive ends up being lower most cases.
Trojan Horse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2012, 02:36 PM   #69
Registered Member
Regular
 
Maddhatter88's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Region: Alabama
Posts: 157
Quote:
Originally Posted by Trojan Horse

That's not extremely low, but compared to a V8 T5 fifth gear there is a good bit of difference.

.68 x 3.55 = 2.414

In a 4WD you have 3 multipliers to go through, the rear end, transmission and the transfer box. So it gets even more complicated and the final drive ends up being lower most cases.
Gotcha. If I did the math right I'm running the same ratio as a stock trans with 4:10 rear gears
Maddhatter88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2012, 11:28 PM   #70
Registered Member
Regular
 
MikesChargedGT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Region: California
Posts: 167
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddhatter88
Then you would have you pretty much a track car. You for sure couldn't get on the highway lol
Alot of people run 4.10s hell I just ordered mine, it doesn't affect highway that much, you gain a couple hundred RPM it ain't gonna kill ya. 4.10s doesn't mean you can't hit the highway my truck runs 4.56s and I take it to the lake lol

---------- Post added at 04:28 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:23 AM ----------

I was so late to that reply, my bad lol
__________________

"Too much horsepower is not enough"
MikesChargedGT is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Mustang Evolution > 1979-2015 Mustang GT || Tech and Talk > 1979-1995 Mustang GT

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


» Like Us On Facebook



04:06 PM


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0

MustangEvolution.com is in no way associated with or endorsed by Ford Motor Company.