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05-22-2012, 07:04 PM
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Why is this white ? I know thats not normal
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05-22-2012, 07:51 PM
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To hot of a heat range plug need to go down a heat range. If the heat range is correct then you could have over advanced ignition timing, running a lean A/F mixture, possible intake vacuum leak, sticking valves or engine is running hot ---------- Post added at 09:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:46 PM ---------- Basically temperatures in the combustion chamber are cooking that plug. Is it just that one plug or is it all of them.
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05-22-2012, 08:06 PM
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Well it's funny 7 are champion and they are all white and there was 1 auto lite ad it was normal ...
And my motor was boggin down at 3K
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05-22-2012, 08:34 PM
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I would definitely say its to hot of a heat range plug then. And my opinion is AutoLite plugs are great plugs for all ford engines I'm not a big fan of champion plugs so definitely get the same AutoLite plugs as that one and replace all of them with those dont just replace those 7 do all 8 and you should be good to go. The engine bogging is probably due to the fouled plugs it should be fine once you replace them
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05-22-2012, 08:37 PM
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| Re: Spark plugs Quote:
Originally Posted by Storm13_5.0 Well it's funny 7 are champion and they are all white and there was 1 auto lite ad it was normal ... Attachment 51492
And my motor was boggin down at 3K | It doesn't like champion plugs. 
If the Champions are plated or platinum plugs and you run nitrous or forced induction you might see that, but SSC182 is correct for the most part.
The heat and the bogging may be because your timing is to slow or retarded.
There is a plug chart in one of the sticky threads too.
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05-22-2012, 08:40 PM
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Well I put Bosch platinum 4 prong in it .. Didn't fix my issue ... /: ughhh and the timing is 15 degrees off but it keeps goin back when I adjust it
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05-22-2012, 08:42 PM
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unplug the sout connector while adjusting then plug it back in
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05-22-2012, 08:43 PM
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You have to disconnect the automatic advance when setting the timing or else it will just go right back to where it was
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05-22-2012, 08:45 PM
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| Re: Spark plugs Quote:
Originally Posted by Storm13_5.0 Well I put Bosch platinum 4 prong in it .. Didn't fix my issue ... /: ughhh and the timing is 15 degrees off but it keeps goin back when I adjust it |  15° Retarded? That will cause it for sure.
You may need to file down the distributor clamp on the bottom a bit so it clamps down tighter.
If you have changed distributors, make sure the gear on the distributor is installed at the correct height and is not contacting the block.
P.S. Save your money on fancy plugs and just run the Autolites. There are some plug modding ideas in the sticky threads if you want to make them a bit more efficient.
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05-22-2012, 08:46 PM
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And FYI Bosch plugs are notoriously high high heat range plugs and that plus 4 crap is just that crap it's a sells gimmick. I would stick with AutoLite platinums. Was it 15 advanced or retarded
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05-22-2012, 08:54 PM
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Where is the sout at ? And hmmm so they could be too hot ? And I should take em out and get autolites?
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05-22-2012, 08:57 PM
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sorry spout connector. its the harness hanging right by the distributor.
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05-22-2012, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Storm13_5.0 Where is the sout at ? And hmmm so they could be too hot ? And I should take em out and get autolites? | The spout on the 94-95 is on the passenger's side inner fender I believe, close to the TFI module.
They may not be to hot, but they are a waste of money.
I would get just plain old Autolites.
I never saw any real benefits to any platinum plugs, but that's just my opinion.
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05-22-2012, 08:58 PM
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And 15 retarded
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05-22-2012, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Storm13_5.0 And 15 retarded | There's where your bogging and heat came from then.
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05-22-2012, 08:59 PM
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So it's a PIA to get to? And well the guy that had it before me said it ran fine ( it had 8 mm accel wires and the Bosch plugs ) then changed to napa hi milage wires and those other plugs then it ran bad .. So that is why I got the plugs ..
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05-22-2012, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Storm13_5.0 Where is the sout at ? And hmmm so they could be too hot ? And I should take em out and get autolites? | Boschs tend to be much hotter than other brands partially because there made for German cars which run hotter heat range plugs. I would personally use AutoLite that is my personal preference AutoLite is who manufactures the motorcraft plugs. As far as where the disconnect is it should just unplug at the back of the distributor if I'm not mistaken Trojan horse may have a better answer as I don't have much experience with fox body's
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05-22-2012, 09:02 PM
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The 15 retarded ? ---------- Post added at 10:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:01 PM ---------- So I just adjust my timing .. But have that adjuster unplugged and plug it back in? Ad my cars a 94 it's a SN-95
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05-22-2012, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Storm13_5.0 So it's a PIA to get to? And well the guy that had it before me said it ran fine ( it had 8 mm accel wires and the Bosch plugs ) then changed to napa hi milage wires and those other plugs then it ran bad .. So that is why I got the plugs .. | The spout connector? No it is not hard to get to. Quote:
Originally Posted by SSC182 Boschs tend to be much hotter than other brands partially because there made for German cars which run hotter heat range plugs. I would personally use AutoLite that is my personal preference AutoLite is who manufactures the motorcraft plugs. As far as where the disconnect is it should just unplug at the back of the distributor if I'm not mistaken Trojan horse may have a better answer as I don't have much experience with fox body's | Even if the Bosch plugs for German cars are hotter, the one's manufactured for other vehicles have to meet the specs for that vehicle or they wouldn't have much luck selling them. Quote:
Originally Posted by Storm13_5.0 The 15 retarded ? ---------- Post added at 10:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:01 PM ---------- So I just adjust my timing .. But have that adjuster unplugged and plug it back in? Ad my cars a 94 it's a SN-95 |
Yes, unplug the spout connector, set your timing, turn the car off and reinsert the spout connector.
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05-22-2012, 09:08 PM
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15 retarded would make them carbon foul not heat foul because it wouldn't be burning all the fuel more than likely. And I hope you don't think I'm trying to be a smart ass but napa plug wires are very inconsistent with there resistances so you may want to invest in better wires like I said not trying to be a dick and bash on your products just speaking from experience
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05-22-2012, 09:08 PM
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Where is the plug I need to unplugg?
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05-22-2012, 09:10 PM
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Lol I put accel 8 mm super stock wires on it .. And your fine bro I'm glad your wiling to help and thanks to all of you guys!!
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05-22-2012, 09:11 PM
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| Re: Spark plugs Quote:
Originally Posted by Storm13_5.0 | Like I said before it is on the passenger's side inner fender.
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05-22-2012, 09:12 PM
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Is it on a grey box ?
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05-22-2012, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Storm13_5.0 Is it on a grey box ? | See the picture I put in my previous post.
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05-22-2012, 09:17 PM
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Thanks a lot  I feel kinda dumb .. And I'm not tryin to be a pain I'm just kinda new to all this
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05-22-2012, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Storm13_5.0 Thanks a lot  I feel kinda dumb .. And I'm not tryin to be a pain I'm just kinda new to all this | Don't feel that way, we all started where you are right now.
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05-22-2012, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Trojan Horse
Don't feel that way, we all started where you are right now.  | + 1.
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05-22-2012, 09:26 PM
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It's jus kinda frustrating .. Not win able to get my own car fixed
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05-22-2012, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Storm13_5.0 It's jus kinda frustrating .. Not win able to get my own car fixed | Make sure you have a good Chilton's or Haynes manual, read everything you can find about it, keep asking questions and keep working on it yourself.
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05-22-2012, 09:34 PM
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I'll have to pick one up next time I'm in town.. And I'll try and do my timing this week I have to get ahold of a guy with one
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05-22-2012, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Storm13_5.0 I'll have to pick one up next time I'm in town.. And I'll try and do my timing this week I have to get ahold of a guy with one |  Pick up tools and testers whenever you can.
The money you save by doing it yourself will pay for them many times over.
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05-22-2012, 09:42 PM
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Thanks a lot  ! What's some good things for starters ?
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05-22-2012, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Storm13_5.0 Thanks a lot  ! What's some good things for starters ? | Timing light  You had to know that was coming. 
A distributor wrench. (Bent for easier access to the hold down bolt, but you can get by without.)
A Multimeter for voltage and ohm testing.
A full set of box end open end wrenches, SAE & Metric
A set of 3/8" drive long and short sockets, ratchet & breaker bar.
A set of 1/2" drive long and short sockets, ratchet & breaker bar.
A set of Screwdrivers
Allen Wrenches & Torx Bits or Drivers
Assorted pliers, needle nose, cutters, vise grips, water pump pliers etc., etc..
Specialty tools as you need them, which are many and varied.
Flashlight, Drop light, magnetic & grabber retrieval tools, etc., etc..
Hammers. punches, chisels............
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05-22-2012, 10:56 PM
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Hahah yeh I mean kinda had a feelin  but sounds like a good list to start off to me  thanks for all the help once again.. I just want my pony to run, and I wanna take it to the track
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