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Old 05-26-2012, 11:57 PM   #1
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So my car has been running good in low Rpms but will not turn over 3400 at that point it just falls on its face .. I got my timing set to factory specs and it still does it .. And I can't find any vaccume leaks ... Any advice ?

I have new fuel , air filters plugs and wires and coil and an EGR eliminator ..

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So my car has been running good in low Rpms but will not turn over 3400 at that point it just falls on its face .. I got my timing set to factory specs and it still does it .. And I can't find any vaccume leaks ... Any advice ?

I have new fuel , air filters plugs and wires and coil and an EGR eliminator ..

Mods 70 mm throttle body Hedman shorty headers and H pipe into flow master 40's
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Have you checked your fuel pressure ?
Fuel pump?
Fuel reg?

Have you cleaned your MAF?
Check your TPS!

My buddy's car was doing the same thing and it turned out to be a bad distributor.
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Did u all of sudden happen or did it start acting up after you changed a part?

Tps = .95-.99 volts
Fuel= 40psi about every car is different
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Yes I cleaned the MAF and the TpS was checked
My fuel rail pressure was 33 at idle and 40 at WOT
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Old 05-27-2012, 11:38 AM   #5
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An no its been doing this since I got it
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I would also try cleaning the injectors. You can take them off and inspect them to Make sure the caps and o rings look to be in good shape .

It could also be your pip(hall sensor) there should be a procedure in your Haynes or Chilton.
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Check the cap and I had problem with the module on the side of the dizzy. If u have a buddy see if they will switch it out with you to eliminate the problem And check to see if the spout connector is in
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Really sounds like your timing is set too low. Is it backfiring any?
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Old 05-27-2012, 01:40 PM   #9
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Really sounds like your timing is set too low. Is it backfiring any?
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And your fuel pressure should be 38-40 PSI at idle with the vacuum line removed and plugged.
If your spout connector is not installed that could keep the timing from advancing which could also contribute to the issue.
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Old 05-27-2012, 05:51 PM   #10
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It back fires yes ! Uhmm the spout connector is function and my timing just got set to 10 degrees .. And "Dizzy"? How much are new injectors and what to loo for if they are messed up?
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if its backfiring then it still sounds like timing to me also.

what do you mean spout is function? its hooked up?

if you put a timing light on the crank, and rev the engine up. does the timing change or does it stay right where its at?
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Old 05-27-2012, 07:07 PM   #12
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It back fires when it hits 3400.. But when the motor is cold it won't turn over 2300 and backfires .. Yes the spout connector is hooked up...
And it didn't move when we reved it up..

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But it's jus confusing to me ... It seems like the distributor is messed up
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it should be advancing when you rev it.

and are you sure you set it to 10* btdc not after tdc?

one thing you can try is bump the timing at idle to around 25* at idle. LEAVE the spout connector unplugged during this. and take it for a test drive. if it runs better than your having an issue with your timing not advancing. very important dont have e spout connector plugged in during this test.
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I had a problem with my disturbtor but It would miss not back fire. It's the module on the disturbtor that i had to change out.

It's an easy mistake but did you change the timing with the spout connecter in or out?
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Old 05-27-2012, 07:41 PM   #15
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Uhmmm idk honestly .. And okay I'll have to run that test .. What should my timing be set at ?




And can you show me a pic of what you changed please

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And yes the spout connector was unplugged
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what part dont you know?

if it was the part wher i said before or after tdc then you need to make sure first. when you are flashing the timing light on the crank the btdc mark you want will appear to the right of the 0* mark.
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Re: Confused

Get you a Chiltons manual so you can refer to it for tune up and repair procedures.you will learn a lot and have the info right at hand.
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Which one do u have. Motocraft?
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Old 05-27-2012, 10:34 PM   #19
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The btcd? And I'll have to go get it timed again.. I don't have a light

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The dtpc. And tdc.. Ohh well I'll have to re time it then lol... I'll make a video tomorrow of what it's doin
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Old 05-27-2012, 10:38 PM   #20
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Yea timing light is one of those must have tools
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Old 05-27-2012, 10:39 PM   #21
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before top dead center.(btdc)

i would suggest buying a service manual trojan suggested. you can pick one up pretty cheap at the local auto parts store. it is a great investment. i buy one for all my vehicles.

it is also a good idea to just pick up a timing light. they are not that expensive either.

when you set your timing,. the 0 mark is in the middlle at exactly top dead center or tdc. your timing that you want is 10* btdc(before tdc), which is 10* clockwise of the 0* mark. make sure you DONT line it up to 10* after tdc which is 10* counter clockwise of 0*.
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Ohh crap... When we timed it we weent left of the 0* mark/:

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And yes at the end of the week imma deff invest in one
Hope one day I'll know as much as you guys
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Ohh crap... When we timed it we weent left of the 0* mark/:

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That's why it won't run right. The timing is way to retarded.
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trojan is right. you are way retarded. here you go this isnt a mustang crank but same concept.
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Ughh Fml lol..
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live and learn man. thats the best way to learn is doing things yourself. thats the way i did.
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I'll do my best .. Thanks for all the help .. Don't wanna be a bother with all my questions
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I'll do my best .. Thanks for all the help .. Don't wanna be a bother with all my questions
You're not a bother, just read up in your Chilton's so you can handle the basic stuff and we'll help you with the rest.
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I'll do my best .. Thanks for all the help .. Don't wanna be a bother with all my questions
Your not a bother one bit. like Trojan said lots of these procedures are in a book, and we all refer to them. No matter how knowledgable anyone is. We don't mind guiding you in the right direction.
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That's why it won't run right. The timing is way to retarded.
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trojan is right. you are way retarded. here you go this isnt a mustang crank but same concept.
Lmfao....sorry I know its the proper terminology,but still...

ps...On a serious note I agree you are not a bother..these two guys will help you with anything they can!..
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Lmfao....sorry I know its the proper terminology,but still...


Well, I couldn't say "mentally challenged", because that wouldn't make any sense then you would think I was.........
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Lmfao....sorry I know its the proper terminology,but still...

ps...On a serious note I agree you are not a bother..these two guys will help you with anything they can!..
Lmmfao. Sorry if the op took this the wrong way.
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