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06-07-2012, 10:37 AM
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#36 | | Pete Jones
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Alright, I think I'm going to start doing the inside and leave underneath for another day.
Gonna tackle the pedals and speedo cable. I was reading up in bypassing the neutral safety switch. Some say just use a jumper wire or a regular fuse so that it is basically a closed loop. Thinking of going the fuse route.
Should I get a particular size fuse or will say a 10 amp suffice?
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06-07-2012, 11:31 AM
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I would THINK that would be ok. I don't think a lot of power is running through it. Are the wires real small on the switch? If there are only 16 gauge or so I would try a 10-15. Sorry I can't tell you for sure
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06-07-2012, 11:55 AM
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#38 | | Pete Jones
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Yeah, they aren't very big. I was thinking about just throwing a 20 in there just to be on the safe side.
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flowmaster 40's dumped, Jegs Big n Littles
BBK CAI, BBK SSI-R upper and lower
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06-07-2012, 02:05 PM
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I talked to a buddy that had done it and he used a 20
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06-07-2012, 02:26 PM
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#40 | | Pete Jones
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K, thanks!
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flowmaster 40's dumped, Jegs Big n Littles
BBK CAI, BBK SSI-R upper and lower
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06-07-2012, 04:19 PM
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#41 | | Pete Jones
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See this lil guy? None of the swaps I've read mention this at all. Just lower the column take the nuts off etc and pull the pedals out....
Nope, that bracket HAS to come out in order to get the pedals all the way out! I probably fought gettin that thing out for 15-20 mins...
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06-07-2012, 04:29 PM
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#42 | | Pete Jones
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Yes I like to cuss and flip things off 
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06-07-2012, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 90mustangLX Yes I like to cuss and flip things off | haha. that always makes it better. i have a few curse words on mine today. about got that biatch running again. thanx to the help of some mudvayne!
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06-07-2012, 04:53 PM
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Tardy to the party, but <subscribed>
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06-07-2012, 05:01 PM
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everyones invited! haha. oh wait, this isnt my thread. cheers
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06-07-2012, 05:37 PM
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#46 | | Pete Jones
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More hands the faster ill get done lol, I'm shooting for Saturday to have it all back together. Just got done gettin the new pedals in. Bit of a pain but it's gonna be worth it in the end!
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06-07-2012, 05:41 PM
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Cheers!...fu©k it im partyin on this thread!..
I also enjoy cursing and flippin things off!..lol
Im drinkin coors light at my local hole in the wall  °
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Originally Posted by 90mustangLX More hands the faster ill get done lol, I'm shooting for Saturday to have it all back together. Just got done gettin the new pedals in. Bit of a pain but it's gonna be worth it in the end! | Makin progress!...I almost thought you had the same floor mats as Dreamstang and I...
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06-07-2012, 05:50 PM
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#48 | | Pete Jones
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Someday I'll be on the same level as you guys! 
Gauge cluster out, swapping holes...uuuhhhhh that's what she said
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06-07-2012, 06:11 PM
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Goin to the top to gain knowledge. Let's hope I remember what the topic is once I'm caught up!
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06-07-2012, 06:28 PM
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#50 | | Pete Jones
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Ahhh, just like factory
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06-07-2012, 06:54 PM
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#51 | | Pete Jones
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Done for tonight, aod shifter is out, pedals are in, speedo cable has been moved, clutch cable has been ran.
Possibly looking like I may finish on my guesstimate of Saturday!!! Woohoooooo!!!
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06-07-2012, 06:58 PM
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This is awesome 90mustangLX! I wanted to do this bad back when I had my 87 GT, but I was chicken. Goodonya! Glad to follow along 
BTW, I enjoy cussin and flippin stuff off too!
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06-07-2012, 07:21 PM
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#53 | | Pete Jones
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Originally Posted by Azure This is awesome 90mustangLX! I wanted to do this bad back when I had my 87 GT, but I was chicken. Goodonya! Glad to follow along
BTW, I enjoy cussin and flippin stuff off too! | It's actually not that bad if you know what you need and have everything at the ready. Personally, I think the toughest part is those damn pedals!!
I would remove the seat and column altogether if I had to do it again, I was just trying to save some time even though it felt like it took forever heh.
I did notice that my car does already have a "closed loop" type plug on the neutral safety switch plug. Wonder if it will work with just that. Only thing is I've read you need the manual harness but then I've also read just get the plug from an auto and it works the same....
I don't know, I guess I'll find out if it will turn over or not just the way it is.
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06-07-2012, 07:56 PM
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#54 | | Evolution's Finest
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Is there anything you need to do with the harness on the car for the auto tranny? By that, I mean, will the ECU have any troubles if the cables are disconnected?
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06-07-2012, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 90mustangLX Yes I like to cuss and flip things off | You from Ohio man?!
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06-07-2012, 08:03 PM
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#56 | | Pete Jones
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Originally Posted by Azure Is there anything you need to do with the harness on the car for the auto tranny? By that, I mean, will the ECU have any troubles if the cables are disconnected? | From what I know the auto computer will work just fine but a manual computer has a more aggressive timing curve. I want to see how it runs with the auto computer then switch it out with my manual ford racing computer.
I do technically have the manual harness but the one plug in that's under the car must have been sitting on my h pipe because it was toast :/
So if I have to I guess I will just jump the wires so it basically does away with the neutral safety switch altogether. Which I won't mind because that king cobra clutch is a little stiff so the less I have to hold it down the better heh.
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You from Ohio man?!
| Yup, southeastern Ohio. Quite a few people on here from Ohio
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06-07-2012, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 90mustangLX
From what I know the auto computer will work just fine but a manual computer has a more aggressive timing curve. I want to see how it runs with the auto computer then switch it out with my manual ford racing computer.
I do technically have the manual harness but the one plug in that's under the car must have been sitting on my h pipe because it was toast :/
So if I have to I guess I will just jump the wires so it basically does away with the neutral safety switch altogether. Which I won't mind because that king cobra clutch is a little stiff so the less I have to hold it down the better heh.
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Yup, southeastern Ohio. Quite a few people on here from Ohio
| Ahh co man! I live in mid west Ohio! You know where Springfield is?
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06-08-2012, 10:17 AM
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#58 | | Pete Jones
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Originally Posted by Storm13_5.0
Ahh co man! I live in mid west Ohio! You know where Springfield is?
| Heard of it never been there.
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06-08-2012, 12:01 PM
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#59 | | Pete Jones
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Alrighty, I'm going to stop and get 3 quarts of ATF and a fan controller.
Recommendations for which wires I should splice it into to get power?
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06-08-2012, 04:00 PM
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#60 | | Pete Jones
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Just talked with my mustang guy at advance and he suggested the coolant temp sensor for the ignition so I'll do that and use the battery for the ground and the 12v constant.
Now I just need to read the dial, says its preset to 165 and can be adjusted down to 90 and up to 210. My car normally runs 195-200 with the fan constantly on so I may try and set it at 185-190. Kinda hard to read the little dial.
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06-08-2012, 04:20 PM
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from my experience with mine the dial wasnt very accurate. there are many variables like where mount the sensor, etc. what i did was leave the dial on to kick on high. then watch the temp gauge. when the temp gets right before where you want it to run like 185 ish. then turn the dial till the fan kicks on. then you are gonna have to watch it. it may take a little bit to get it dialed in perfect, or im just picky. lol
oh also my control only goes down to 150. but when its all the way down it wont kick the fan on at all. it took me a min to figure that out. i triple checked the wiring. then i turned the dial up and it kicked on haha.
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06-08-2012, 05:54 PM
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#62 | | Pete Jones
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Ok, the instructions mention something like that as well.
Home stretch baby!!!! You really don't need to bend the tunnel too much. I basically just jacked the trans up until it hit, then just a bit more checking it and it pretty much bends it to the shape you want anyways.
By the way, noes a good time to use a shop vac under your console since its outta the way
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06-08-2012, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 90mustangLX Ok, the instructions mention something like that as well.
Home stretch baby!!!! You really don't need to bend the tunnel too much. I basically just jacked the trans up until it hit, then just a bit more checking it and it pretty much bends it to the shape you want anyways. | You might want a little clearance though, since your motor and trans actually move a little bit when you get on it.
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06-08-2012, 05:59 PM
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#64 | | Pete Jones
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The only spot that looks close is the back right as your sitting in the car, everywhere else looks to be ok but I'll bend a little bit more for good measure.
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06-08-2012, 06:18 PM
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yes the back right. thats where mine is clearanced at.
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06-08-2012, 07:22 PM
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#66 | | Pete Jones
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Well I've done about all I want to do tonight. Only thing left is to put the console back together, put a shifter on and hit the key!
Technically I could probably fire it up right now but the wife would cut me off at the knees since the kids are already in bed.
Tomorrow I shall finish and fingers crossed take her out for the maiden voyage!
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06-08-2012, 07:31 PM
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Yes my car was auto before. But I didn't do the swap.
And I would take it for a spin before you hassle with the console. Just to be sure everything is right.
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06-08-2012, 07:47 PM
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#68 | | Pete Jones
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That is definately a good idea. I might just run it up and down the driveway(have a fairly long driveway) to test out and let it get up to operating temp before I take it out for a long cruise to make sure I'm not going to have any hiccups before then.
So do you know why you have to jump the neutral safety switch plug even though they are already jumped from the factory in the autos?
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06-08-2012, 08:10 PM
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#70 | | Pete Jones
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I read that before but it kind of confused me that one guy said just grab the jumper plug from and aod and bam done because the black plug under the dash is the one that is plugged and jumped.
Friend of mine did his to his auto vert and said he just ended up cutting the plug and twisting the wires together so that got me thinking that what I have already wont work....
I dont know I'm sort of confusing and second guessing myself heh, I guess if it won't turn over tomorrow I will pop the jumper plug out and add the fuses and see if that does it. Which of it does.... That will confuse the hell out of me
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