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Old 06-12-2012, 07:36 PM   #141
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Hmm, thought I probed all the empty slots but got no power... I'll have to check again tomorrow.

So would you recommend I crimp a male connector on the end and slide it up into the slot?
Yes, that will work. Just make sure whichever one you use is powered on by the key switch.
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Yes, that will work. Just make sure whichever one you use is powered on by the key switch.
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Ok so I tried to find the number 7 but it isn't getting any power key on or off, even tried number 17 spare, same result
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Ok so I tried to find the number 7 but it isn't getting any power key on or off, even tried number 17 spare, same result
See if you can get a really good picture of your fuse box. Maybe we can identify what you actually have a bit better that way.
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The other 2 wires are for the radio and power to my tach light.
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Ok, investigate and probe all of the open holes in the fuse box for power.There is usually always a "spare" or "extra" connection in one or more of them to use for add on accessories.


Failing that you may have to use a switched wire from the ignition switch to power a relay and then feed the power from the battery through a properly sized fuse, then through the relay contacts to your fan control. That will ensure that you do not get low voltage to your control.
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From what I know the auto computer will work just fine but a manual computer has a more aggressive timing curve. I want to see how it runs with the auto computer then switch it out with my manual ford racing computer.

I do technically have the manual harness but the one plug in that's under the car must have been sitting on my h pipe because it was toast :/

So if I have to I guess I will just jump the wires so it basically does away with the neutral safety switch altogether. Which I won't mind because that king cobra clutch is a little stiff so the less I have to hold it down the better heh.

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Ok, investigate and probe all of the open holes in the fuse box for power.There is usually always a "spare" or "extra" connection in one or more of them to use for add on accessories.

Failing that you may have to use a switched wire from the ignition switch to power a relay and then feed the power from the battery through a properly sized fuse, then through the relay contacts to your fan control. That will ensure that you do not get low voltage to your control.
To me they feel like dead plugs, when I try to put a regular fuse up inside its like there are no prongs on the inside to hold a fuse
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To me they feel like dead plugs, when I try to put a regular fuse up inside its like there are no prongs on the inside to hold a fuse
Some of them do not have a fuse holder, they are just a 1/4" blade that you connect with a 1/4" female blade connector. You have to fuse them with an inline fuse.
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I found another diagram that is supposed to be from a 1990 5.0 Mustang. It lists 3, 7, 12 & 17 as being spares. One of them should have the connection you need.
Also look down beside the fuses. At times I have found switched connections there too.
You are looking for a flat 1/4" male blade connection.


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Some of them do not have a fuse holder, they are just a 1/4" blade that you connect with a 1/4" female blade connector. You have to fuse them with an inline fuse.
K, I poked and prodded with key on and key off, either I wasn't hitting the connectors or they just weren't getting power, I couldn't get the test light to light up :/

I'll try it again tomorrow, I may just unbolt the fuse panel so I can look at it without laying on my back.
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K, I poked and prodded with key on and key off, either I wasn't hitting the connectors or they just weren't getting power, I couldn't get the test light to light up :/

I'll try it again tomorrow, I may just unbolt the fuse panel so I can look at it without laying on my back.
That's really strange.


I know my 86 GT has at least two.
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No new update been a little busy this week, I did however find another thermostat housing that I believe came off my 90(think I used the one off my 87 when I swapped intakes) and it has the port for a temp sensor to screw into
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No new update been a little busy this week, I did however find another thermostat housing that I believe came off my 90(think I used the one off my 87 when I swapped intakes) and it has the port for a temp sensor to screw into
thats where i have mine.
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After I found that I looked at the one I used from my 87 and it's just a hole cast into it but it's not drilled, I may swap them out and order the other fan controller that has the screw in probe
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After I found that I looked at the one I used from my 87 and it's just a hole cast into it but it's not drilled, I may swap them out and order the other fan controller that has the screw in probe
i spoke to summit racing when i bought mine. he said either will work, but the actuall screw in sensor would be more accurate.
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No new update been a little busy this week, I did however find another thermostat housing that I believe came off my 90(think I used the one off my 87 when I swapped intakes) and it has the port for a temp sensor to screw into
That's a good cast iron housing.

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i spoke to summit racing when i bought mine. he said either will work, but the actuall screw in sensor would be more accurate.

They are a LOT more accurate.
I have actually used a compression fitting and replaced the brass ring in them with an o-ring or two to install and seal up some of the non immersible temperature sensor probes. As long as you don't clamp down to hard on them and distort the tube they will remain fairly accurate. The only trick is to find the correct size compression fitting.
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Ok so I looked a little closer at my fuse panel. Saw one slot with the little prong you were talking about but it was not getting any power with the key on or off

Didn't get a chance to check out the other spots when I got home because my 2 yr old is running a fever and isn't feeling too hot
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Ok so I looked a little closer at my fuse panel. Saw one slot with the little prong you were talking about but it was not getting any power with the key on or off

Didn't get a chance to check out the other spots when I got home because my 2 yr old is running a fever and isn't feeling too hot
Maybe need a better meter/light? Lol j/k
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Maybe need a better meter/light? Lol j/k
Could be, it was an advance auto special lol
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Well I think the starter finally bit the dust...... Just got home shut the car off, went inside, opened the garage for went to start the car and you could hear the starter spinning slowly then faster and light grinding....hmmm, guess I'll pull the other starter and add another shim to see if that fixes anything >
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that sux man
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Alright, pulled the starter and the one I took out seems to have some in and out play whereas the one out of my 87 does not.

They virtually look the same to me but the one out of my 87 seems to have a slightly larger shaft and shorter distance between the gear and where it would touch the come while engaged.

It also appears that my 90s starter is a remain as it has no ford stamp whereas my 87 is stamped ford on the cone.

Gonna slap the 87 one in and see what it does.
Wish me luck :/
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good luck. maybe that was your problem the whole time!
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:sigh:........

It's not a starter issue.....it's flywheel

It seems I have a bad spot in my flywheel, I should have just got a new one when I had the chance.... Put the other starter in. Same issue, grabbed a rachet and socket, turned the motor a little hit the key and she fired right up.

I think I'm gonna go throw up now
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aww.. that sux!! i feel for ya.
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Man, sorry dude. I hope the swap goes smooth.
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That it does.....I kept saying in the back of my mind, you should probably just get a new flywheel, then I said well I already have a flywheel so that will save me some cash because I was thinking the other starter was just on its way out.

Well, I think I'm just gonna enjoy the car this summer then in the winter tear back into it a throw a new flywheel in it. I would do it now but it's so flippin muggy and hot right now I don't want to mess with it lol.

I guess I'll just chalk this one up to experience. Next time(of there is one) buy a new flywheel and play it safe, go with the gut feeling. So now I know if it won't turn over I need to crank the engine by hand a little and shell fire right up, at least until the rest of the flywheel wears out on me :/

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I do have one question, I'm thinking about switching my a9p computer for my ford racing a9s computer. Is there anything special I need to do timing wise? I know the manual computers have a more aggressive timing curve.

Also for the first time I've had my car out I can stomp the gas, spin a little then it pulls like hell, throw it into second and spin a little more and pull like hell. It actually surprised me how much pull it has now compared to when the auto was in there. I honestly think if I can get it to hook up I might be able to push a high 13.

Probably wishful thinking but it will definately be in the 14s compared to my 15.1 run with the junk aod heh.
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I would just keep a spare wrench with you so you don't get stranded.
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I do have one question, I'm thinking about switching my a9p computer for my ford racing a9s computer. Is there anything special I need to do timing wise? I know the manual computers have a more aggressive timing curve.

Also for the first time I've had my car out I can stomp the gas, spin a little then it pulls like hell, throw it into second and spin a little more and pull like hell. It actually surprised me how much pull it has now compared to when the auto was in there. I honestly think if I can get it to hook up I might be able to push a high 13.

Probably wishful thinking but it will definately be in the 14s compared to my 15.1 run with the junk aod heh.
Start with your timing set to the factory 10° BTDC when you swap computers. Then if everything is ok you can advance it from there. 14° or 4° advance seems to be the most beneficial timing advancement, but you will probably need to run premium fuel to keep it from detonating.
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Haven't had a chance to do anything else to the car, been working longer hours at work and then getting prepared for my 3rd child to be born this Saturday.

Gotta make sure I have everything ready heh. So I pretty much have all of next week off, maybe once everyone is napping I can sneak out in the garage and do a little tinkering like swapping the computers and testing the fuse box prongs again lol.
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thats awsome man. i cant wait to congratulate you.

and when they fall asleep for a nap. just make sure you can hear the ol lady yell for yeah! or she will be pi$$ed at you and your stang.
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thats awsome man. i cant wait to congratulate you.

and when they fall asleep for a nap. just make sure you can hear the ol lady yell for yeah! or she will be pi$$ed at you and your stang.
Oh yeah no doubt, she'll probably be mad if I'm out there no matter what lol. Surprised she didn't say anything when I was doing my 5 speed swap heh.
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Meh, still no update, been humid and hot as hell. Been without power since Friday nights storm rolled through :/

Praying it comes back on soon so I don't have to keep buying gas for the generator.
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