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Old 06-26-2012, 10:56 PM   #1
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I was wondering if there is anyway to tighten up my steering wheel?
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I was wondering if there is anyway to tighten up my steering wheel?
With a wrench.


Seriously, without knowing exactly where it is loose or what symptoms you have, how would we know?
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In general, I don't know how to explain it. There is nothing wrong with it. Its too easy to turn the wheel. I drove a Corvette yesterday and it was exactly how I want. Idk if any of you have driven one but yeah. I want it to be harder to turn but I want to keep PS.
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I was wondering if there is anyway to tighten up my steering wheel?
Is it a rack and pinion steering setup?
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I don't know how can I check? It's a 93 lx
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In general, I don't know how to explain it. There is nothing wrong with it. Its too easy to turn the wheel. I drove a Corvette yesterday and it was exactly how I want. Idk if any of you have driven one but yeah. I want it to be harder to turn but I want to keep PS.
Sports cars like the Corvette are engineered from the factory to have more "feel" to the steering.
Getting your Mustang to have that feel would probably require some significant expense and time in a suspension shop.
Manual steering is the only "less expensive" way I can think of to get what you seek, but I sure wouldn't want it on my daily driver or street car for sure.
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Is it a rack and pinion steering setup?
Yes, it is a rack and pinion, probably quite similar to what you have in your newer Mustang.
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Sports cars like the Corvette are engineered from the factory to have more "feel" to the steering.
Getting your Mustang to have that feel would probably require some significant expense and time in a suspension shop.
Manual steering is the only "less expensive" way I can think of to get what you seek, but I sure wouldn't want it on my daily driver or street car for sure.
Ah okay, well I will continue to look around for a solution. Thanks.
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I don't understand the exact feel you are looking for. But they make high performance racks. They have better/quicker turning. I would look into flaming river.
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I don't understand the exact feel you are looking for. But they make high performance racks. They have better/quicker turning. I would look into flaming river.
I want it to be harder to turn the wheel. Can I weaken the PS?
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I want it to be harder to turn the wheel. Can I weaken the PS?
no offense, but thats kind of opposite of what people do. lol

but the only thing. can think of is to overdrive the ps pump. to do that just get a larger pulley and a new belt that fits. and i cant guranntee it will work.
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no offense, but thats kind of opposite of what people do. lol

but the only thing. can think of is to overdrive the ps pump. to do that just get a larger pulley and a new belt that fits. and i cant guranntee it will work.
It's cool, I just don't like the feel of it. Maybe its because I have had pos cars before this and I'm just not to having "good" steering. I had a crx with no ps which was nice and easy because the car is so light, then I had a ranger, it was too "loose", then a eclipse that was absolutely perfect, it took a little tiny bit force to move the steering wheel but once it moved easily once it started turning. It's too hard to explain though typing I guess I will have to find someone in person who I can explain this to.
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It's cool, I just don't like the feel of it. Maybe its because I have had pos cars before this and I'm just not to having "good" steering. I had a crx with no ps which was nice and easy because the car is so light, then I had a ranger, it was too "loose", then a eclipse that was absolutely perfect, it took a little tiny bit force to move the steering wheel but once it moved easily once it started turning. It's too hard to explain though typing I guess I will have to find someone in person who I can explain this to.
its cool man. try underdriving it. it will make the pump pump slower. and maybe someone else will have some ideas. thats just all i can think of.
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its cool man. try underdriving it. it will make the pump pump slower. and maybe someone else will have some ideas. thats just all i can think of.
Thanks a lot for the advice.
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no problem. the only thing that made me unsure, is that since its a pump it may require spinning a certain speed. like i said i think it work but when you do it, make sure the pump isnt whining. if its not it should be ok. but if it does do that then it may ruin the pump faster.
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no problem. the only thing that made me unsure, is that since its a pump it may require spinning a certain speed. like i said i think it work but when you do it, make sure the pump isnt whining. if its not it should be ok. but if it does do that then it may ruin the pump faster.
Yeah its whining now, I plan on replacing it when I can.
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Power Steering Pump pulleys are different than other accessory pulleys. I really doubt you will find a smaller pulley, but even if you do I would not change it. The pumps are a vane style pump and they depend on turning a certain speed to force the vanes out against the pump cavity walls to move the fluid. If you reduce the speed they turn, then at idle or low engine speeds it is quite likely it will quit pumping and your steering will get really hard, harder even than a manual rack because of the fluid in the rack that has to be moved when you turn.


If you insist on this, a manual rack or a specialized system is the only safe way to go.
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Power Steering Pump pulleys are different than other accessory pulleys. I really doubt you will find a smaller pulley, but even if you do I would not change it. The pumps are a vane style pump and they depend on turning a certain speed to force the vanes out against the pump cavity walls to move the fluid. If you reduce the speed they turn, then at idle or low engine speeds it is quite likely it will quit pumping and your steering will get really hard, harder even than a manual rack because of the fluid in the rack that has to be moved when you turn.

If you insist on this, a manual rack or a specialized system is the only safe way to go.
I thought they made power steering underdrive pulley?

Yeah, I didn't know if it would work or not. But what you said does make sense.
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I thought they made power steering underdrive pulley?

Yeah, I didn't know if it would work or not. But what you said does make sense.
They might make one, but I don't think they do. I've been wrong before though, so it's possible.
I did some checking and I couldn't find an exploded view for our Mustang pumps, but some of the older style Ford pumps (the fat bulky ones) did have a spring assisted vane so one of those might work at slower speeds if it could be fitted on there.
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They might make one, but I don't think they do. I've been wrong before though, so it's possible.
I did some checking and I couldn't find an exploded view for our Mustang pumps, but some of the older style Ford pumps (the fat bulky ones) did have a spring assisted vane so one of those might work at slower speeds if it could be fitted on there.
We are all wrong from time to time. But my memory is crap sometimes. I would go with you, Mr mustang encyclopedia. .

It was just a guess that it would even work. I did some quick looking also and couldn't really find anything.
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We are all wrong from time to time. But my memory is crap sometimes. I would go with you, Mr mustang encyclopedia. .

It was just a guess that it would even work. I did some quick looking also and couldn't really find anything.
I have a lot of info from a lot of years stored away, but I do make mistakes and sometimes forget. I appreciate any and all of you guys keeping a look out and correcting me when it is needed.
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I have a lot of info from a lot of years stored away, but I do make mistakes and sometimes forget. I appreciate any and all of you guys keeping a look out and correcting me when it is needed.
I think you do a great job of making sure your information is accurate. That's why your our "go to guy".
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