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07-15-2012, 07:55 AM
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Definitely!
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07-15-2012, 08:14 AM
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Good luck bro!
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07-15-2012, 08:59 AM
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Holy****! This thread is barely 2 days old and already 8 pages! Lol
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07-15-2012, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by primer2tone Holy****! This thread is barely 2 days old and already 8 pages! Lol | us fox guys rally together when someone is in need of help!
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07-15-2012, 09:29 AM
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Thankfully  ---------- Post added at 10:29 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:26 AM ---------- And I'm always in trouble!
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07-15-2012, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JayKranz Thankfully
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And I'm always in trouble! | yeah man. you seem to have some terrible luck. i have similar luck sometimes, but not as bad. lol . so i feel for ya.
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07-15-2012, 09:33 AM
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It'll all work out in the end. It always does.
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07-15-2012, 09:38 AM
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yes it will. and it will be a beast. especially once you can throw some heads on there. |
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07-15-2012, 11:25 AM
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| Re: My new harmonic balancer does not have timing marks like my old one did! Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamstang You will also need more gaskets to. I wouldn't take the chance of reusing them at this point. | Unless your head gaskets are the "reusable" MLS.
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Originally Posted by Trojan Horse
Unless your head gaskets are the "reusable" MLS.  | He's running the felpro 9333's. |
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07-15-2012, 11:37 AM
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| Re: My new harmonic balancer does not have timing marks like my old one did! Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamstang He's running the felpro 9333's.  | My bad.
Toss them out.
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07-15-2012, 04:46 PM
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Put it back together. Started fine, after about 15 seconds it didn't build oil pressure. I shut it off. Then I checked oil levels everything looked good. I then restarted the car and no leaks or anything but the valve train has some noise almost like it may not be getting oil.
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07-15-2012, 04:49 PM
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Make a video next start up
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07-15-2012, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JayKranz Put it back together. Started fine, after about 15 seconds it didn't build oil pressure. I shut it off. Then I checked oil levels everything looked good. I then restarted the car and no leaks or anything but the valve train has some noise almost like it may not be getting oil. | did you have oil pressure when you refired? you maynot have oil pressure instantly since its essentially a new motor.
there is a trick. you actually probably should have done this before fire up. but you can do this to verify you are geting oil. take a valve cover off, and pull the distributor cap. use a reversible drill, in reverse. and spin the distributor to drive the oil pump. now off course it wont spray oil everywhere because a drill spins so slow. but it will take a few seconds and you should start to see oil come out on your rockers.
also its common that you may have to retighten your rockers.
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07-15-2012, 04:54 PM
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Okay ---------- Post added at 05:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:53 PM ---------- I ha oil pressure yesterday and then the first time I fired it up today.
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07-15-2012, 04:55 PM
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oops hold on ---------- Post added at 05:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:54 PM ---------- i forgot you need an old distributor to do that with no cam gear on it. sorry. but you can pull the valve cover and see if its spraying oil. have someone near by to see. so you can shut it back off before it makes a mess.
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07-15-2012, 04:58 PM
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U can't get a valve cover off on these without removing the intake can you?
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07-15-2012, 04:59 PM
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honestly i dont remember. i have a carbed setup.
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07-15-2012, 05:03 PM
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Doubtful with all the turbo and intake tubing
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07-15-2012, 05:07 PM
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it will be worth it though to play it safe after everything you have went through. make suremyou are getting oil!
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07-15-2012, 06:00 PM
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I'm done, just gonna pull it |
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07-15-2012, 06:05 PM
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that may be your best bet.
and hope everything works out better next round,
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07-15-2012, 06:14 PM
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| Re: My new harmonic balancer does not have timing marks like my old one did!
If it does not have an aftermarket oil pump drive shaft, you should get one. The factory ones are notoriously weak.
You should also always prime the oil system of an engine after it has been rebuilt or if it sets for very long before starting it. Otherwise you are starting up on dry bearings and damage will occur.
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07-15-2012, 06:47 PM
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Yeah, that's probably what happened.
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07-16-2012, 08:16 AM
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Should I put my stock cam in this engine? It has a Lunati one now.
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07-16-2012, 08:24 AM
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| Re: My new harmonic balancer does not have timing marks like my old one did! Quote:
Originally Posted by JayKranz Should I put my stock cam in this engine? It has a Lunati one now. | Go to CamQuest and input your engine info.
Then see how closely the cams they choose for you match the specs on the Lunati.
When I put in all of my info for my engine and the Novi SC, their cam choice specs are almost identical to the X303 I have, so I'm going to give it a try and see how it works.
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07-16-2012, 07:24 PM
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It's a modest Lunati cam similar to a b303 I believe. Would I be able to use my stock size push rods?
I got my engine out and apart today.
Everything looks good still. Ordering a mew oil pump now.
Is the oil pick supposed to be very close to the bottom of the pan?
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07-16-2012, 07:45 PM
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Glad to hear the engine looks good now that you have it apart.
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07-16-2012, 07:47 PM
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Yes it's pretty close! Have you pulled a piston?
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07-16-2012, 07:50 PM
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if its similar to a b303, i would leave it in there.
i wonder if there is a way to check the rings with it apart? maybe fill the cylinders with kerosen? or oil and see if it stays there? idk, just wondering if there is a way to check.
but then again why not pull it all the way apart
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07-16-2012, 07:51 PM
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I don't have the heads off and my compression was good. What do you think?
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07-16-2012, 07:53 PM
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did you still have oil in the intake the last time you fired it? and did you check compression on every cylinder?
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07-16-2012, 08:27 PM
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I checked every cylinder and I didn't have oil until after the lifters started making noise.
What's the gap that should be between the oil pan and the bottom of the pick up tube?
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07-16-2012, 08:35 PM
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3/8-1/2" usually
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07-16-2012, 08:44 PM
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I have no where near that! Probably part of the problem  . It looks like my pick up tube is on the bottom on the pan. The pan depth is 7.25, and the pick up is very slightly less than that.
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