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Old 07-18-2012, 03:48 PM   #1
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On3 turbos are no good!

Spoke with my mechanic, he said 3 of his customers have it n there no good..hp gain weak, poor quallity parts,bov,wastegate,etc..he said yea its cheap n nice to boost your car for cheap but spend the money n get a real kit with real nam

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Old 07-18-2012, 03:51 PM   #2
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I have read lots of good reviews. I am also not to sure about your mechanic. Not trying to be a d*** .
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I sort of agree, the only thing I didn't like from my kit was the turbo itself. Get the kit without the Chinese turbo and upgrade to a precision or magnum performance one. I had two standard on3 turbos go bad in about 150 miles and I returned them an got my money back.
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^Is trying to be a dick! Lol oops, wrong thread. Haha.
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I can see that. The turbo is the power maker so upgrading there makes lots of sense. But I haven't heard as much problems with everything he listed? Have you had any other problems with the rest of the kit jay? And I know you made more than 100-125 hp on a stock motor. That seems good to me.

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Only if u run at like 3_5psi..anything higher all the parts start to fail alot quicker..he said kit is designed for stock engines,n my guy is good..he's shop is one of the top 3 in LI,NY for.mustangs..shop has veryy high rep of nice,clean,proper work..
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Okay, I've have no problems with anything but the turbo. My car made 294hp/407 tq at the wheels with the crappy turbo at 8lbs. Just get a better turbo the welds are good on the piping and everything. Also, it's one third the price of anything else do if one or two components are ****ty throw them out and upgrade. That's what I did. I am happy with my kit, but I have a 67mm magnum performance turbo.
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Old 07-18-2012, 04:09 PM   #8
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W.e man u can judge my mechanic all u want..he still builds insane cars that dont blow up,no parts fail, car dont run right etc....theres lots of shops that cars blow up on there dynos bc of shady work..

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294/407??? 294/307* ?
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The problem that I could almost gurantee with the turbo is gonna be the bearings.
China bearings = no no
The piping and intercooler bov etc etc aren't as prone to failure like the turbo would be. Because there not spinning some crazy rpm with China bearings. Yeah they maynot be the best of quality but most people get away just fine using those parts.

Don't get me wrong though. This isn't some high end kit. Just saying lots of people have success with them.
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Nope, it's correct the way I typed it.

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It's a bone stock motor. My Dynotune sheet is in the forum feel free to search for it.
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Tourqe is usally lower then hp with turbos?
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Old 07-18-2012, 04:13 PM   #12
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I'm sorry if I offended you. It may have been wrong of me to dog your mechanic. But I just don't like seeing people getting hosed into $$$$. And maybe he has seen some stuff. Idk. That's the reason I do my own work on everything. I have trust issues. Lol
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Yeah I'm not so sure about that. Either way that's what it was. You're pretty argumentative today huh?
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Boost makes high torque. Our 302s are 280 something stock at the flywheel.
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Stock motor = Stock cam = high torque
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he said for the same price after install and upgradeing the kit parts just supercharge it with a vortech charger n make prob stronger power with less chance of blowing up/parts failing..bc the kit he wants to sell me is the same setup he runs on.his 94..had it on for 3 years now,nothing changed/broke aslong as u maintane it..450rwhp for 3 years no problems/new parts

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Idk turbo vs s.c #s with hp/trq..thats y I asked
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Ahhh there it is. "the kit he wants to sell me". just be carefull dude. I have the 1575.00 on3 kit I got $275 off from not taking the tur o. I then bought a good turbo $750. Still about 2k. It really just depends if you want a turbo or a supercharger. My turbo is pretty cool
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Vortechs are good, and yeah probably better than a on3 setup. I just don't want people with a smaller budget to be strayed away from something that has pleased lots of people.
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Its not used,,its what he personally recomands bc he drive a 94 as a daily with that kit and has no issues
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Just do ur research and do what's best for u. The vortech will install in two hours and you are done right. Turbo has constant tuning but I would trade the sound of my turbo or blow off valve for any supercharger
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Okay, I've have no problems with anything but the turbo. My car made 294hp/407 tq at the wheels with the crappy turbo at 8lbs. Just get a better turbo the welds are good on the piping and everything. Also, it's one third the price of anything else do if one or two components are ****ty throw them out and upgrade. That's what I did. I am happy with my kit, but I have a 67mm magnum performance turbo.
294 with 8lbs of boost that seems low sorry
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Old 07-18-2012, 04:26 PM   #22
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I bet you the kit he is selling you is more expensive than say American muscle, summit etc. I just would never but something that large from a shop. But when he quotes you I would at least price check.

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294 with 8lbs of boost that seems low sorry
Stock is 185 ish or less. I think over 100 seems great on a bone stock motor over 40-45% increase.
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Sure it does except my motor was stock with E7 heads, and the cheap Chinese turbo that I said not to get. It's much faster with the magnum turbo. Also some of you guys seem to forget that our motors dyno about 185-/+ hp at the wheels stock, so 294 at the wheels is a huge gain.its more than double which is a 100% gain. Vortech claims a 40-75% gain so 450 @ the wheels I have to call bull**** on that one.

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Sorry almost double

My point is that u just chose what's best for you.
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Old 07-18-2012, 04:33 PM   #24
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Sure it does except my motor was stock with E7 heads, and the cheap Chinese turbo that I said not to get. It's much faster with the magnum turbo. Also some of you guys seem to forget that our motors dyno about 185-/+ hp at the wheels stock, so 294 at the wheels is a huge gain.its more than double which is a 100% gain. Vortech claims a 40-75% gain so 450 @ the wheels I have to call bull**** on that one.

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Sorry almost double

My point is that u just chose what's best for you.
My car right now does 305hp/324tq N.A..my motor is built..so yea I can hit 450 ..u cant
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Yeah with a built motor but we were not talking about that. You guys were in disbelief about my bone stone motor.
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Spoke with my mechanic, he said 3 of his customers have it n there no good..hp gain weak, poor quallity parts,bov,wastegate,etc..he said yea its cheap n nice to boost your car for cheap but spend the money n get a real kit with real nam

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I had the 2v kit on my turbo 2v and never had any problem with it mostly because I swaped the turbo, bov, and wg. I ran a garret turbo and tial bov/wg. They even say that the kits have room to grow and the bov/wg have tial flanges so they can be swaped out in no time. I got the kit for its hot side and cold side pipes and I have the mp76 just laying around. You can get two or three good turbo for the money you saved buying the on3 kit.
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Exactly!
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294 with 8lbs of boost that seems low sorry
On the stock motor thats great with the restrictive e7 head and a stock cam 300whp/400wtq is average with the tfs top end kit you'll see mid to low 400s with those same 8psi and with a VERY conservative tune.
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Exactly!
Yea exactly like I said u gotta change the bov,wg,and tubro..wtf is the point of buying a turbo kit if u gotta change all the parts ???.. For the pipeing??
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Yea exactly like I said u gotta change the bov,wg,and tubro..wtf is the point of buying a turbo kit if u gotta change all the parts ???.. For the pipeing??
Then don't buy it. It's that simple. But I don't see how you can review a kit you have never even seen..... Unsubscribed....
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Then don't buy it. It's that simple. But I don't see how you can review a kit you have never even seen..... Unsubscribed....
Trust me..i wont be buying it
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Yea exactly like I said u gotta change the bov,wg,and tubro..wtf is the point of buying a turbo kit if u gotta change all the parts ???.. For the pipeing??
You do know they offer turbo upgrades right with a precision turbo which are very good and for another $600 have the best bov/wg on the market. Also turbo>sc when it comes to power and delivery all that I see from a vortech is the lag of the turbo with the perasitic loss from a blower while the turbo runs off the exhaust gasses. For $3500 you can have a kit that will mop the floor with kits nearly twice the price.
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I ran the on3 kit on my 89' and upgraded the turbo. I say it's a great deal if you upgrade the turbo. And can make enough power to blow your stock block no problem. Been there done that
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Re: On3 turbos are no good!

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Spoke with my mechanic, he said 3 of his customers have it n there no good..hp gain weak, poor quallity parts,bov,wastegate,etc..he said yea its cheap n nice to boost your car for cheap but spend the money n get a real kit with real nam

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Let's NOT be coming on here and posting what your mechanic thinks in this manner.
Honestly I and many others could care less what he thinks and you shouldn't be trying to start a feud with people on this site over what he says.


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Ohh geez, u country guys go hard on these lil forum's
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