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Old 07-21-2012, 04:59 PM   #1
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No 4v, building new pushrod motor instead

Well my plans for my 4v swap kinda fell through so I'm starting a fresh build. Still going to keep a tight budget that way I can upgrade the suspension and cooling system as well without the wife complaining too much. Have pretty much everything pending as I'm waiting for my nice check to arrive so I can pay for it.
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Well my plans for my 4v swap kinda fell through so I'm starting a fresh build. Still going to keep a tight budget that way I can upgrade the suspension and cooling system as well without the wife complaining too much. Have pretty much everything pending as I'm waiting for my nice check to arrive so I can pay for it.
That's to bad.


I could sure use one of those "nice checks" though. Where can I get one?
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That's to bad.

I could sure use one of those "nice checks" though. Where can I get one?
I'm not too worried about the swap falling through, though my wife is happy it will stay pushrod.

I'm borrowing out of a fund I have set up, no need to worry about interest.
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4v ftw. That sucks tho

Whats the plan for a pushrod? Power goal?
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I'm not too worried about the swap falling through, though my wife is happy it will stay pushrod.

I'm borrowing out of a fund I have set up, no need to worry about interest.
That's a good way to do it for sure.


What engine do you have planned for it?
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Going to end up building a 306 for the moment. The only thing I plan on using off the blown motor is the intake until I can afford the one I want. Shooting for somewhere around 300whp, figure I can get there reliably and somewhat cheap. I'm looking at heads right now to see which ones best fit my current and future goals.

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4v ftw. That sucks tho

Whats the plan for a pushrod? Power goal?
The guy with the donor gt backed out and I miss driving the stang. That and my wife begged me to keep it pushrod and build what I want so I'm going along with it.

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That's a good way to do it for sure.

What engine do you have planned for it?
I do believe I will be getting the abaco maf meter as well, it'll be nice to only have to buy once and program it for future plans. LRS carries it now so its in the cart too.
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331 is about the same price if you are buying new parts anyway.
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331 is about the same price if you are buying new parts anyway.
The block was done by a friend of mine for his build, I couldn't beat the price of his block with 0 miles on the build.

I was intending on doing a 331, but the 2000+ price for a short block is a little out of my budget at the moment.
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Oh it's done already? I thought you had a bare block. Sorry
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Oh it's done already? I thought you had a bare block. Sorry
The block was done awhile back, picking it up for what he has into it.
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Nice, good luck. I got a 331 from a guy but don't have money for the top end yet.
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I do believe I will be getting the abaco maf meter as well, it'll be nice to only have to buy once and program it for future plans. LRS carries it now so its in the cart too.
I like the Abaco MAFs for that reason, they hold several "tunes" and you can fine tune your chosen settings.
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I like the Abaco MAFs for that reason, they hold several "tunes" and you can fine tune your chosen settings.
I re-read about it to make sure. As soon as I was done reading up on some tests on it I updated my cart.

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Thinking about going with the Anderson or trick flow cam with this build as well. Any recommendations. Looking for a different sound and I figure the 90 could use some lope out of my e cam. I'm going to check cam quest tomorrow just to be on the safe side.
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Re: No 4v, building new pushrod motor instead

Just sucks cause a stock 32v will make 300rwhp with a midpipe. Thats it.

But hey. If mommas happy. Daddys happy.

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Just sucks cause a stock 32v will make 300rwhp with a midpipe. Thats it.

But hey. If mommas happy. Daddys happy.

Good luck.
Which is why I wanted to do a 4v swap originally.
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I re-read about it to make sure. As soon as I was done reading up on some tests on it I updated my cart.

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Thinking about going with the Anderson or trick flow cam with this build as well. Any recommendations. Looking for a different sound and I figure the 90 could use some lope out of my e cam. I'm going to check cam quest tomorrow just to be on the safe side.
Either cam would probably be a good choice. I'd do the same as you and just plug all the specs into Camquest and see what it says.
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Looks like I'll be going with the trick flow stage 1. It was close enough to a "good fit" cam and the idle is choppy enough to satisfy me.
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Get us a sound vid when it's running.
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Get us a sound vid when it's running.
I intend to, I'm tallying up the last little bit needed so I don't go over my budget. Hate to say but I'm more than likely going to purchase the flo-tek heads and give them a shot. The few hundred I'll save will keep me under budget by the looks of it, and I'm curious how well they'll perform. I'm also going to schedule a dyno tune shortly after the install to have some numbers to go along with it.
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I intend to, I'm tallying up the last little bit needed so I don't go over my budget. Hate to say but I'm more than likely going to purchase the flo-tek heads and give them a shot. The few hundred I'll save will keep me under budget by the looks of it, and I'm curious how well they'll perform. I'm also going to schedule a dyno tune shortly after the install to have some numbers to go along with it.
The 300 hp goal maybe hard to get with an off brand heads. As that's pretty much all the tfs topend kit gets. But who know maybe they will perform like a top brand. I am curious as well. So I guess you'll be the guinny pig.
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The 300 hp goal maybe hard to get with an off brand heads. As that's pretty much all the tfs topend kit gets. But who know maybe they will perform like a top brand. I am curious as well. So I guess you'll be the guinny pig.
That's why I said around, lol. With everything to be done to my car for piece of mind with the motor is a little under 3500. If anything if they don't perform as well as I hope I'll have them worked over later on.
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That's why I said around, lol. With everything to be done to my car for piece of mind with the motor is a little under 3500. If anything if they don't perform as well as I hope I'll have them worked over later on.
Yeah there isn't really a whole lot of reviews on them. So its hard saying. Aren't flo tek made by holley? Or is that a different flo tech?
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Yeah there isn't really a whole lot of reviews on them. So its hard saying. Aren't flo tek made by holley? Or is that a different flo tech?
Flow tech is made by holley. Flo-tek is from tri-state. The reviews I've seen were more about the quality of them.
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Here's an article on them - Flo & Go
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Here's an article on them - Flo & Go
I think that article was the factor to help me decide on them.

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I'm going to post some pics of them when they arrive.
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I think that article was the factor to help me decide on them.

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I'm going to post some pics of them when they arrive.
They look pretty decent to me and there is room for improvement.
I'd be willing to buy them if I needed a set.


Going for stud or pedestal mounts?
Pedestal mounts make it simpler, but studs give you adjustment.
I think I would opt for the studs myself.
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I think that article was the factor to help me decide on them.

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I'm going to post some pics of them when they arrive.
That would be cool. You gonna do a full review for us?

That was a good article.
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They look pretty decent to me and there is room for improvement.
I'd be willing to buy them if I needed a set.

Going for stud or pedestal mounts?
Pedestal mounts make it simpler, but studs give you adjustment.
I think I would opt for the studs myself.
Going with stud mount and pro form RRs. I am going to order pushrods after I have everything to check the length needed.

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That would be cool. You gonna do a full review for us?

That was a good article.
I will try my best. I'm trying to keep it as low budget as possible except the maf so people can have an idea of what can be done. Got a few things I'm price matching now.
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Going with stud mount and pro form RRs. I am going to order pushrods after I have everything to check the length needed.

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I will try my best. I'm trying to keep it as low budget as possible except the maf so people can have an idea of what can be done. Got a few things I'm price matching now.
Hey just a thought. I haven't tried it yet. But I did research about it a few months ago. Any how jegs and summit will price Amazon.
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Hey just a thought. I haven't tried it yet. But I did research about it a few months ago. Any how jegs and summit will price Amazon.
I've thought about them, but lrs has everything except the heads along with free shipping. Kinda hard to find somewhere that beats their prices as well. Was going to use AM but they don't have some of the kits I need.
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