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Old 07-27-2012, 05:21 PM   #106
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Old 07-27-2012, 05:35 PM   #107
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i think your plugs are fouling from the oil causing the extra fuel into the exhaust.
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Old 07-27-2012, 05:47 PM   #108
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Old 07-27-2012, 05:52 PM   #109
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Liar... Lol jk I saw you do IT for a living. Maybe you can trade work for work with your tuner
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Could this or some of the oil have been retained from your previous startup? Maybe a lot of that was lying somewhere after your exhaust ports, in your headers, etc...?
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Could this or some of the oil have been retained from your previous startup? Maybe a lot of that was lying somewhere after your exhaust ports, in your headers, etc...?
That was my thought. But I'm not sure if it would still be steady after 15 minutes of idling. Maybe blipping the throttle a couple times would clear it up if it was that. But he is also still getting oil on the plugs.
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That was my thought. But I'm not sure if it would still be steady after 15 minutes of idling. Maybe blipping the throttle a couple times would clear it up if it was that. But he is also still getting oil on the plugs.
Oh, I missed the plugs when I was catching up.

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Can oil pressure ever be too high for the engine to handle?
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Oh, I missed the plugs when I was catching up.

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Can oil pressure ever be too high for the engine to handle?
i dont know. i know a couple things


he had oil problem before caused by a missing plug

he has really high compression. 200-225 lbs during compression test. a good stock motor will usually pull 125-150 ish. but this would usually cause blowby type problems. which would leak compression into the crankcase. but this can almost be eliminated because during his compression test all cylinders held compression for a length of time. this says that theres no ring problems. and also the oil is usually forced up through the pcv which he says is dry.

he is getting oil soaked plugs. this says the oil is definitly in the cylinders. but shouldnt be coming through the intake because of previously stated. this leaves the valve seals. i dont know for sure if this would happen without affection the compression test. it would also be wierd to lose all valve seals at the same time being these heads came off a running motor.

and also the thought of a cracked block or head and/or blown head headgasket doesnt sound that feasible because its every cylinder.

this is my summary and i am now stumped!
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I would think the previous oil issue leftovers would be cleared out by now. I did pull the motor again after that and got it all pretty cleaned out.

The plugs are black because of too much gas not oil from my understanding. I think what's dripping out is what was said earlier. Oil washed from cylinder, gas and carbon.

Anyone wanna buy a nice Fox?

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@Dreamstang I am also stumped and that's an excellent summary!
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Old 07-27-2012, 06:46 PM   #115
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I would think the previous oil issue leftovers would be cleared out by now. I did pull the motor again after that and got it all pretty cleaned out.

The plugs are black because of too much gas not oil from my understanding. I think what's dripping out is what was said earlier. Oil washed from cylinder, gas and carbon.

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sorry i thought oil was on the plugs.

did you blip the throttle a few times to see if you can clean out the exhaust. i would think it would need to be cleaned out by now to. but you did have some serious oil in there.
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little oil on the plugs but I think that the gas is washing it off the cylinders a bit. I blipped it a little but at first start it idled at 3k so I'd think that would blow out anything.
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Re: Got it running! 331 Stroker Turbo

Ok, the black plugs are from over fueling I would bet.

The oil has to be what got in there before if you are not losing any.
I would bet that it pooled in the mufflers or in a low spot in the pipes.


You should probably test the O2 sensors to ensure they are ok.
If they were saturated with oil. then it was "cooked" on there, then they may be ruined.


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Old 07-28-2012, 05:46 AM   #118
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Okay will do, thanks TH!
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It's always nice when TH cleans up everything we talked about.

What he said makes perfect sense. And I hope that's the problem. But yeah if your o2 sensors are staying clean and your not losing oil. Maybe it just is sitting in a low spot and not coming out very fast.
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Yes that is nice
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Well go start it and putt around the block piss the neighbors off. Lol I'm about to car wash time
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It's always nice when TH cleans up everything we talked about.

What he said makes perfect sense. And I hope that's the problem. But yeah if your o2 sensors are staying clean and your not losing oil. Maybe it just is sitting in a low spot and not coming out very fast.
I appreciate your thoughts, but you should all know that by your own contributions you help me look at the issue from several different angles and that helps me think out and determine what I think the problem might be. Without your input I might very well be wrong more often than right. So all of us working as a team have a far better chance of succeeding in our mission to help members with their issues. It is actually you guys doing all of the hard work, I just sift through the info you present and make the best guess I can from what I have learned over the years.
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I appreciate your thoughts, but you should all know that by your own contributions you help me look at the issue from several different angles and that helps me think out and determine what I think the problem might be. Without your input I might very well be wrong more often than right. So all of us working as a team have a far better chance of succeeding in our mission to help members with their issues. It is actually you guys doing all of the hard work, I just sift through the info you present and make the best guess I can from what I have learned over the years.
Cool. I wasn't sure if we were cluttering the thread and making it difficult to sort through or if we were helping.
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Cool. I wasn't sure if we were cluttering the thread and making it difficult to sort through or if we were helping.
You are all helping, just keep on doing as you have been. It helps me think.
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You are all helping, just keep on doing as you have been. It helps me think.
That's good to know I have thought that once or twice myself..
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So is the car up and running right? Did I miss a thread?
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Old 07-30-2012, 06:04 PM   #128
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No you didn't miss anything. It runs but I still
can't get my idle right. Also I really need a
set of aluminum heads.
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So is the car up and running right? Did I miss a thread?
jay is now accepting donations for the " get the turbo stroked on the road foundation"
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Haha, for sure! I'm ordering the Methanol injection kit this week sometime. After that I'll get it tuned. Could be 3-4 weeks though due to low funds.
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are you getting ot tuned before you get heads? because i would wait till you got heads.
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Yes, the heads will be next spring and I can run 5lbs with Methanol and my iron heads.
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did you look into flow tech heads? they are really cheap. but right now im waiting for slowstangs review.

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gotcha. thats via the tuner?
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Yeah that's what Mike(tuner) said. I'm holding out for some 225's with 70cc chamber. That will bring my compression down to about 9:1, then 12lbs of boost and a new trans
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Yeah that's what Mike(tuner) said. I'm holding out for some 225's with 70cc chamber. That will bring my compression down to about 9:1, then 12lbs of boost and a new trans
Nice.
You should also save for next year is a support system. To help that block out. Cause that's gonna be an animal.
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I have a DSS main girdle installed all ready. Maybe I could wrap a hundred feet of duct tape around it. Nothings gonna save it.
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I have a DSS main girdle installed all ready. Maybe I could wrap a hundred feet of duct tape around it. Nothings gonna save it.
i didnt know it had that. it will help for sure.

but if your gonna go the duct tape route, at least use gorrila tape.

does it have a valley girdle to?
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No valley girdle. It's a DSS racing 331 kit with forged pistons an rods, stock type crank I think, with main girdle and all arp hardware.
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Is your computer from a fox with a MAF? I had idle issues like this at one point and I thought it was my IAC till I cleaned my MAF. Now I know your car is a turbo and mine isnt but thought maybe if u were not.running a MAF your computer could be reading funky. hopefully I dont sound like an idiot im no mechanic. ")
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Old 07-30-2012, 09:39 PM   #140
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Yeah my cars computer is original. I will clean the Maf it's a pain to get to on my car.
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