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07-26-2012, 11:27 PM
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| ok here's the debate of the day...
Have a 331 stroker...all forged... 18k miles. Synthetic oil or conventional...?
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07-26-2012, 11:32 PM
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I just rebuilt my engine to a 331 stroker also all forged and I use conventional. Now the question is it roller rockers or flat?
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07-27-2012, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Dadsgl67 I just rebuilt my engine to a 331 stroker also all forged and I use conventional. Now the question is it roller rockers or flat? | Dam, let me answer that one!!! Always roller rockers avoid flat tappet, you not only gain power there is less friction
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07-27-2012, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Georgia331 Have a 331 stroker...all forged... 18k miles. Synthetic oil or conventional...? | I use conventional with lucas oil stabilizer...but if I wasn't running that I would most likely run synthetic..
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07-27-2012, 08:22 AM
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Yes it is a roller set up.
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07-27-2012, 08:55 AM
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| Re: ok here's the debate of the day...
Synthetic, a good synthetic that is, will always provide more benefits and less friction than conventional oil. The real question is, "Do you want or mind the expense."
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07-27-2012, 11:01 AM
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I was wondering if they are running roller rockers or not. In mine, I'm not there for I have to use the zinc additive.
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07-27-2012, 02:50 PM
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I used Mobil 1 10w30
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07-27-2012, 03:26 PM
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| Re: ok here's the debate of the day... Quote:
Originally Posted by Dadsgl67 I was wondering if they are running roller rockers or not. In mine, I'm not there for I have to use the zinc additive. | That will definitely help protect the rockers.
Are you using an oil additive for the zinc or an oil with it blended in? Schaeffer Oil has some good oils that have it blended in.
My cousin uses it in his 1900+ HP drag race car and he swears by it. Quote:
Originally Posted by Georgia331 I used Mobil 1 10w30 | That's what I use also, but in 5W30.
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07-27-2012, 04:03 PM
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Oil is something so little but really big in the long run that's why I brought this up
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07-27-2012, 04:11 PM
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But even more important would be the upkeep of your engine oil no matter what your choice is. Most people choose every 3k miles.. I change mine when it's time and depends on my driving habits and how long and how often I drive my car during this time period. Also I use a wic filter.. With my 5w30 non synthetic. My oil changes usually average every 5 to 6 months.. But my car is a toy.. My daily gets a lot more attention.
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07-27-2012, 04:53 PM
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I do mine about every 2500-3000 miles just because I'm on the road so muc
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07-27-2012, 07:07 PM
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Yeah I never hit 3k before changing mine. Prolly closer to 2500 |
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07-27-2012, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Trojan Horse
That will definitely help protect the rockers.
Are you using an oil additive for the zinc or an oil with it blended in? Schaeffer Oil has some good oils that have it blended in.
My cousin uses it in his 1900+ HP drag race car and he swears by it.
That's what I use also, but in 5W30.  | I use 10w30 valvoline w a zinc additive but since it's a roller u don't need the zinc u can go with conventional royal purple I'm too broke for it but I think the real question is what have you been using for the 18k miles that have been put on it? Keep using it no need to change
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07-27-2012, 10:39 PM
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| Re: ok here's the debate of the day... Quote:
Originally Posted by 90GTNovi2000 But even more important would be the upkeep of your engine oil no matter what your choice is. Most people choose every 3k miles.. I change mine when it's time and depends on my driving habits and how long and how often I drive my car during this time period. Also I use a wic filter.. With my 5w30 non synthetic. My oil changes usually average every 5 to 6 months.. But my car is a toy.. My daily gets a lot more attention. | I do something similar with all of my vehicles.
I don't pay a whole lot of attention to the mileage other than to see how long it has been since the last change.
What I watch is the oil's condition.
When it turns dark or black I change it.
Sometimes that's before 3k and sometimes it's around 5k, it just depends on how the vehicle is being used.
Lots of short trips and the oil gets dirtier, faster, longer trips the oil stays cleaner, longer.
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07-27-2012, 11:40 PM
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Next debate should be wether diesels are the new ricers.
There's lots of trash can exhaust diesels around here
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07-28-2012, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Dadsgl67
I use 10w30 valvoline w a zinc additive but since it's a roller u don't need the zinc u can go with conventional royal purple I'm too broke for it but I think the real question is what have you been using for the 18k miles that have been put on it? Keep using it no need to change | Were not even gonna mention Royal Purple lol
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07-28-2012, 09:11 AM
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Synthetic. I use Mobil 1
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07-28-2012, 09:35 AM
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Off topic but is it common for a t5 to have a slow drip in about 3 places?
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07-28-2012, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Georgia331 Off topic but is it common for a t5 to have a slow drip in about 3 places? | Common..?. Maybe in high mileage cars that haven't been maintained to often..still never a good thing to be leaking anything..im guessing a slow leak from the tails shaft and speedo cable would be the most common areas that it may leak from. and those are easy fixes..
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07-28-2012, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by XXSTEVEO66
Common..?. Maybe in high mileage cars that haven't been maintained to often..still never a good thing to be leaking anything..im guessing a slow leak from the tails shaft and speedo cable would be the most common areas that it may leak from. and those are easy fixes.. | Yeah that's what I'm going to look at tomorrow. It's a very slow drip
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07-28-2012, 10:54 AM
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Oh and since it's your own thread it doesn't matter that it's off topic. You just might not get as many people to give there opinion because the thread name isn't specific to a leaky trans.
If you want more traffic it's never a bad idea to start a new thread. But you may get your answer here anyways. Trojan Horse is (TH) is like the master sensei around here for 79-95 mustang gt..kinda like Dustan Hoffman in rain man...only less autistic lol..jk TH |
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07-28-2012, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Saucywalnuts Next debate should be wether diesels are the new ricers.
There's lots of trash can exhaust diesels around here | But on diesels its good IMO, makes the truck louder and meaner, diesels are the only good lookers with big tips. Makes good to smoke a holes when they start to get outta line
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07-28-2012, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by XXSTEVEO66 Oh and since it's your own thread it doesn't matter that it's off topic. You just might not get as many people to give there opinion because the thread name isn't specific to a leaky trans.
If you want more traffic it's never a bad idea to start a new thread. But you may get your answer here anyways. Trojan Horse is (TH) is like the master sensei around here for 79-95 mustang gt..kinda like Dustan Hoffman in rain man...only less autistic lol..jk TH  | That's good to know. Most sites that I've been on for other cars will bash you for changing the subject lol. Already like this place
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07-28-2012, 11:32 AM
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I have used Am's Oil for years and will never use anything else... I even put it in lawnmower...lol
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07-28-2012, 11:58 AM
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| Re: ok here's the debate of the day... Quote:
Originally Posted by Georgia331 Off topic but is it common for a t5 to have a slow drip in about 3 places? | No, it is not common. It may seem so, but that's just because some owners are not overly concerned with proper maintenance and repair. Quote:
Originally Posted by XXSTEVEO66 Common..?. Maybe in high mileage cars that haven't been maintained to often..still never a good thing to be leaking anything..im guessing a slow leak from the tails shaft and speedo cable would be the most common areas that it may leak from. and those are easy fixes.. | Very good answer.  Also check the rear main seal. It may appear to be coming from the front of the transmission, but the engine's rear main seal is one of the most common leaks in the area of the transmission. Less common are leaks through a sensor or switch screwed into the transmissions, so check those too. Quote:
Originally Posted by XXSTEVEO66 Oh and since it's your own thread it doesn't matter that it's off topic. You just might not get as many people to give there opinion because the thread name isn't specific to a leaky trans.
If you want more traffic it's never a bad idea to start a new thread. But you may get your answer here anyways. Trojan Horse is (TH) is like the master sensei around here for 79-95 mustang gt..kinda like Dustan Hoffman in rain man...only less autistic lol..jk TH  |
Excellent advice and...........thanks Steve, I think.
The key is to name your thread to reflect what you are having trouble with or want to ask about. It also serves to make it more easily searchable by someone having similar or the same issues.
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07-28-2012, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by XXSTEVEO66 Oh and since it's your own thread it doesn't matter that it's off topic. You just might not get as many people to give there opinion because the thread name isn't specific to a leaky trans.
If you want more traffic it's never a bad idea to start a new thread. But you may get your answer here anyways. Trojan Horse is (TH) is like the master sensei around here for 79-95 mustang gt..kinda like Dustan Hoffman in rain man...only less autistic lol..jk TH  | This is funny.lol
I use castrol gtx 5w 30. And I also change oil by appearance usually.
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07-28-2012, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Trojan Horse
No, it is not common. It may seem so, but that's just because some owners are not overly concerned with proper maintenance and repair.
Very good answer.  Also check the rear main seal. It may appear to be coming from the front of the transmission, but the engine's rear main seal is one of the most common leaks in the area of the transmission. Less common are leaks through a sensor or switch screwed into the transmissions, so check those too.
Excellent advice and...........thanks Steve, I think.
The key is to name your thread to reflect what you are having trouble with or want to ask about. It also serves to make it more easily searchable by someone having similar or the same issues.  | Yeah I was a little worried it's the rear main
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07-28-2012, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by dreamstang This is funny.lol
I use castrol gtx 5w 30. And I also change oil by appearance usually. | Yep, straight from our very own SteveO.
I have used Castrol in the past too and it is a good engine oil.
One thing is very evident using it.
When you tear down an engine that has used Castrol exclusively you can (or we used to be able to) actually see a golden sheen on iron engine internals that tells you the oil/additives are penetrating the iron and protecting your engine.
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07-28-2012, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Georgia331 Yeah I was a little worried it's the rear main | The seals are easy to change. What's not easy is having to remove the trans/clutch/flywheel to get at it.
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07-28-2012, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Trojan Horse
The seals are easy to change. What's not easy is having to remove the trans/clutch/flywheel to get at it.  | Yeah. Luckily I have access to a full shop otherwise I'd be in trouble
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07-28-2012, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Trojan Horse
Yep, straight from our very own SteveO.
I have used Castrol in the past too and it is a good engine oil.
One thing is very evident using it.
When you tear down an engine that has used Castrol exclusively you can (or we used to be able to) actually see a golden sheen on iron engine internals that tells you the oil/additives are penetrating the iron and protecting your engine.  | Well that's good to know. |
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07-31-2012, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Georgia331
Were not even gonna mention Royal Purple lol | Haha |
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07-31-2012, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dadsgl67
Haha  | Something wrong with RP? Enlighten please. ---------- Post added at 02:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:15 PM ---------- Nvm. I looked it up. Some bad reviews I guess
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07-31-2012, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 5.slow
Something wrong with RP? Enlighten please.
---------- Post added at 02:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:15 PM ----------
Nvm. I looked it up. Some bad reviews I guess | Nah I've just had some bad experiences with them. Also too...does anyone think that 10w30 might be too much viscosity. Therefore causing high oil psi
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