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Old 08-31-2012, 04:13 AM   #1
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hey trojan...bad news for me.

So I have a ton into my car. Been told from day 1 to get rid if, but to much money in. Now recently I saw it but didn't know if should be worried. Mech alerted me of frame rot next to headers. Its right by schock tower, so when it breaks through ill lose front end. He said been lucky si far. My plan was to get winter car, new dd. So I went to new performance shop/dealer that opened up to look and ask about labor rates...not worth going through with cosmetics. Need to get roller and transfer everything over. Cheaper than thought though. Just got to thinking though. If have to do that might not need to get another mustang. Maybe 80's ltd or a miata lol. Then coworker told me has a black 4cyl probe with blown motor. Now to the question after this book...knowing probes fwd would this work..or how much extra would be needed to convert to rwd..or could I keep it fwd and kill 2 birds w 1 stone and not need a winter car because its fwd. And will engine fit in bay and still be able to keep cool?
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You'd be cheaper and way easier to get a 4cyl notch back and swap. The probe swap will be way to involved to be worth it.
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Ya figured as much. If it worked wouldn't need dd too. Oh well. Guess ill save for dd park stang for long time, take care of debts, then get new roller. Winters in mw suck...mustang doesn't work lol. I have but something better would be safer
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It's fixable.. I've had a car have the same thing.. Wait until you pull the motor to repair it..
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It's fixable.. I've had a car have the same thing.. Wait until you pull the motor to repair it..
What kind of damage monitarily would that be like? Other option prob better this thing rough all around. Prob cost about same for body work/paint as would new roller.and transfering stuff over. Unrelated side note...used to live in canton for 14 or so years.

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You'd be cheaper and way easier to get a 4cyl notch back and swap. The probe swap will be way to involved to be worth it.
What about just swapping motors? Its a 4cl auto. Would tranny be able to handle? Which id hate to do though just bought new clutch kit and used trans off mech
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It's fixable.. I've had a car have the same thing.. Wait until you pull the motor to repair it..
I agree. That's a common spot for corrosion. I would pull the motor and repair it.
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I think I saw on tv once..what do they fill in with foam that hardens or something? New dd first so it'll be a bit
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post up some pics of the infected area. maybe we could give some ideas. but im assuming the best way is to remove the damaged area an weld in new metal.
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Ill have ti try, about to leave for work. Tomorrow day off. Phone camera garbage but we will see. It's by shock tower next to headers
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your probably talking about the long 4-5" strip of metal? probably has rusted through holes in it? if so you can probably cut that out and run a piece of 1/16" (or whatever it is ) flat stock in its place.
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Work?

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Doesn't appear so I'm driving now so
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post up some pics of the infected area. maybe we could give some ideas. but im assuming the best way is to remove the damaged area an weld in new metal.
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What he said. Let's see how bad it is before we do anything drastic. The frames in these cars are relatively easy to repair so don't be too concerned about it just yet.

P.S. A Fairmont or Futura would be cool and most parts would swap over easily, a Miata would be cool, but much more difficult to do. Forget the Probe though, not cool and way to much work involved to swap it to a RWD platform.

P.S.S. If in the end you do decide to get rid of it let me know. If it's cheap enough I have a Fat Boy (BBF) in my garage that needs a home and a big block notch would be right up my alley.
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Ill have to figure out pics. Not uploading crashing. Maybe lower pic quality so smaller size. Afa selling..doubtful to much invested. Unf I think it might be cheaper to get roller and transfer stuff. That is after fixing frame, body work and paint. I bought as is don't know what's under primer. One spot rear of pass door looks like patch job. Hole in trunk. I see small hole passenger floor..don't know what's under carpet..prob more holes. Fenders are only bolted along hood door and underneath rotted. Mech just screwed bottom up, so don't need to lift fender to get in out lol. Mechanically I've replaced about everything. So sorry so long.I think to much.its regardless get winter car. Then keep stang as is a rat.and prey.or fix everything cosmetically...or the roller route. I would like to paint super dark purple like blackberry but darker and middle of the hood black. Did I mention they oversprayed over locks, so either I don't have key or can't get in goes unlocked, part of mirror, used masking tape for trim. Half of which is not there or I ripped off. I want to take off anyway and smooth out. If were to sell now I prob want to much. To date w labor costs and all about 7k invested ni car deal.

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There is some pics in garage of car
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Buddy of mine has a 87 gt vert. Let's just say he bought it for 2500 and never noticed the shock towers. One day he took the front wheels off to do something and notice that basically both shock towers were completely gone and the only thing holding to front end from falling out we're the sway bars and was what left of the k member bolts.

He ended up getting some 1/4" plate steel and cutting and welding it to his front end. He got it all done, it's heavier than the normal vert now but it's gonna take it a while before it decides to rust all the way through again.
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Re: hey trojan...bad news for me.

After reading your description post and seeing the pictures, you should probably step back and catalog all of the issues it has with rust. If it is as bad as I gathered from your description, then buying a roller and transferring the drivetrain may be your best option.
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yeah. that seems to be in pretty rough shape man.
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Old 09-01-2012, 11:04 PM   #20
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Re: hey trojan...bad news for me.

since this is sorta a rust topic how easy of a repair are quarters and under the doors bc mine are rusted through in some spots that and the torque box were the only horrible spot and a little bit near the trunk
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since this is sorta a rust topic how easy of a repair are quarters and under the doors bc mine are rusted through in some spots that and the torque box were the only horrible spot and a little bit near the trunk
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Re: hey trojan...bad news for me.

didnt mean to add the on e of the lights sorry wrong pic idk how to delete it
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Dam guys sorry to hear your cars have cancer time for chemo!! My boosted 89' had cancer and about 3 hrs of chemo and she was cured.. I will dig for pics, but afraid they went swimming with a old phone
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Old 09-02-2012, 03:45 AM   #24
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Ya I knew needed work wgen got just didn't know how much lol. Mechanically I'm pretty much done aside from performance parts. Ill buy a new dd. Drive on occasion and try not to hit any bumps lol. Go from there. 50 merc lol.
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didnt mean to add the on e of the lights sorry wrong pic idk how to delete it
Just edit your post and remove the offending picture.

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since this is sorta a rust topic how easy of a repair are quarters and under the doors bc mine are rusted through in some spots that and the torque box were the only horrible spot and a little bit near the trunk

Repairing rust involves removing the paint around the area then cutting out and replacing the damaged metal. It can be a relatively easy process or extremely difficult depending on how far gone the panel is.
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