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Old 09-08-2012, 01:21 AM   #1
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I have a 89 Gt.. My starter stays cranking..I changed the solenoid three times from dealership and the starter twice..something is burning up the solenoid..but from what they told me I dont have a short.. I'll appreciate the help I been dealing with this for months already.. Thanks!!
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Replace the ignition switch. Not the key cylinder, but the switch on the column There was a known problem with Ford cars and trucks actually catching fire from faulty switches in the mid 90's. There was actually recalls on them. The switch is inexpensive. You may have to work to remove he screws though, as they had a special one that snapped the head off from the factory for theft deterrent. New one may come with security torx screws. If you need the bits, harbor freight sells a kit with them. HTH!
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Replace the ignition switch. Not the key cylinder, but the switch on the column There was a known problem with Ford cars and trucks actually catching fire from faulty switches in the mid 90's. There was actually recalls on them. The switch is inexpensive. You may have to work to remove he screws though, as they had a special one that snapped the head off from the factory for theft deterrent. New one may come with security torx screws. If you need the bits, harbor freight sells a kit with them. HTH!
My bad I forget that..I also changed the ignition switch..I pretty much did everything I could think of.. Still does.. I have a f150 battery..someone said that can be a maybe problem.. Idk..I wouldn't think so cuz I had that battery for years..and had no problem with it..
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Old 09-08-2012, 07:06 AM   #4
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You have basically changed all the parts possible. It has to be a short. When it happens see if the small wire on the silinoid has 12 volts. If it does when your not pushing the key forward then trace that wire with visual and schematics.
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No no.. The abindex is getting hung on the flywheel easy fix..

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Google the bendix spring.. I bet a $100 thats it my old car had the same problem.. I thought it was my torque converter going out..
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No no.. The abindex is getting hung on the flywheel easy fix..

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Google the bendix spring.. I bet a $100 thats it my old car had the same problem.. I thought it was my torque converter going out..
He said he replaced the whple starter.
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Then it's the ignition switch is hung. It doesn't make since..
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Yeah I changed everything possible that I can think that had to do with the starter system.. Ignition switch, starter, solenoid..thats why I don't know what it is..
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For some reason you are over amping the solenoids and welding the contacts together.

1. Your battery cables could be bad or to small.
2. You grounds could be dirty and not making good contact or they are incorrectly sized or installed improperly.
3. The solenoids you are using are junk, try a better quality if they are suspect.
4. The ignition switch is sticking causing the starter to stay engaged.
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Yeah I changed everything possible that I can think that had to do with the starter system.. Ignition switch, starter, solenoid..thats why I don't know what it is..
I would start with my original suggestion.
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Dream stang: I'll try that out..their lending me a voltage meter today so I'll check that up..

Trojan Horse..yes thats exactly what the guy ay the dealer ship told me..am changing the battery cables and the stater one.. The solenoid I got the one from the dealer ship.. I'll check up on the switch again..I'll see..incase I do all this stuff and out stol doesn't work..is their any other opinions or options to do?? Thank you guys!!
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Yeah search for a bad ground or a short..
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I mentioned that I have a f150 battery and someone told me that might be the problem since every car has its own battery that its suppose to have and that the battery that I have is bigger that it might be sending more power than what its suppost to..whats your guys opinion..I checked everything this weekend and same problem continues.. :/
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I mentioned that I have a f150 battery and someone told me that might be the problem since every car has its own battery that its suppose to have and that the battery that I have is bigger that it might be sending more power than what its suppost to..whats your guys opinion..I checked everything this weekend and same problem continues.. :/
imo its probably not an issue. people upgrade there batteries all the time.
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I mentioned that I have a f150 battery and someone told me that might be the problem since every car has its own battery that its suppose to have and that the battery that I have is bigger that it might be sending more power than what its suppost to..whats your guys opinion..I checked everything this weekend and same problem continues.. :/
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imo its probably not an issue. people upgrade there batteries all the time.
That's not the problem. A 12V battery will not send more power than it is supposed to. You can use any 12V battery and the only issue you will run into is that if you use one that is way to small it won't have enough cranking amperage to start the engine. Using a larger cranking amp battery won't hurt anything. I routinely run a 900-1000 CCA battery in my car with no ill effects.
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That's not the problem. A 12V battery will not send more power than it is supposed to. You can use any 12V battery and the only issue you will run into is that if you use one that is way to small it won't have enough cranking amperage to start the engine. Using a larger cranking amp battery won't hurt anything. I routinely run a 900-1000 CCA battery in my car with no ill effects.
Oh ok..well than I dont know..I can't say am giving up on it but its going to the electricians..a have up on fixing and replacing anything I can.. :/ was saving that money for new intake manifold.. Thanks for the help guys..I appreciate it..
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Oh ok..well than I dont know..I can't say am giving up on it but its going to the electricians..a have up on fixing and replacing anything I can.. :/ was saving that money for new intake manifold.. Thanks for the help guys..I appreciate it..
If you want to try one last thing, get us some detailed pics of the solenoid, starter and wiring attachments. Maybe we can see the issue that way.
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I would pull out the starter also and inspect it
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Well I took it to my friend whose an electrician..I guess I was missing some ground wires to the body, not the motor..he just put couple of wires and I haven't had no problem.. : D hopefully it was that.. Thanks guys for all the help..
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Well I took it to my friend whose an electrician..I guess I was missing some ground wires to the body, not the motor..he just put couple of wires and I haven't had no problem.. : D hopefully it was that.. Thanks guys for all the help..
That will do it. You are lucky you didn't fry the ECU.


The body and frame grounds are really important to ensure the ECU and all of your lights and other accessories work properly. Without the proper grounding the electricity will sometimes back feed through components seeking a ground and that can really cause a boatload of failures and issues.


Glad you got it fixed before it caused any further problems.
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Yeah.. Right the next say I started checking all the wires and checking that they were tight..thanks . : D
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I mentioned that I have a f150 battery and someone told me that might be the problem since every car has its own battery that its suppose to have and that the battery that I have is bigger that it might be sending more power than what its suppost to..whats your guys opinion..I checked everything this weekend and same problem continues.. :/
No thats not true,,you can have a 2000 cca battery,,its still 12 volts,,and your starter only pulls whats needed,,If you have a 200 amp starter it will only pull 200 amps it doesnt matter what kind of battery or how big it is,,as long as is 12 volts..Now if you undersize the battery then you would have problems,,i betcha like trojon said its a ground problem..

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No thats not true,,you can have a 2000 cca battery,,its still 12 volts,,and your starter only pulls whats needed,,If you have a 200 amp starter it will only pull 200 amps it doesnt matter what kind of battery or how big it is,,as long as is 12 volts..Now if you undersize the battery then you would have problems,,i betcha like trojon said its a ground problem..
oops i didnt read all of the tread,,never mind..lol..glad you got it fix
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No thats not true,,you can have a 2000 cca battery,,its still 12 volts,,and your starter only pulls whats needed,,If you have a 200 amp starter it will only pull 200 amps it doesnt matter what kind of battery or how big it is,,as long as is 12 volts..Now if you undersize the battery then you would have problems,,i betcha like trojon said its a ground problem..

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oops i didnt read all of the tread,,never mind..lol..glad you got it fix
Lol..no problem..thanks though..
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