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Old 09-16-2012, 08:18 AM   #1
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Transmission pops out of first gear?

Over the past 400 miles or so 1st gear started popping out more and more.. its pissing me off too.. lol. What do I need to do to fox this? New syncros? New tranny? I was also told that I should try a thicker tranny oil and it should help... What you guys think?? It has the royal purple syncromax in it now..
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Rebuild or replace. Be carful as all it takes is on time popping out can break it.
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Re: 1st gear pop outs..

Needs a rebuild or replacement.The gears are worn or the shifting forks are bent.
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What price range roughly?
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$1300 for a brand new one
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Re: 1st gear pop outs..

You're looking at $1200-1500 for a brand new one and probably the same or more to rebuild yours...
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Over the past 400 miles or so 1st gear started popping out more and more.. its pissing me off too.. lol. What do I need to do to fox this? New syncros? New tranny? I was also told that I should try a thicker tranny oil and it should help... What you guys think?? It has the royal purple syncromax in it now..
The tip of the main shaft resides in the back of the input shaft which has a bearing made of rollers. The rollers and/ or tip of the main shaft could be shot. Makes the shafts move around.
The synchros can be worn out too. Needs to come apart.
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You're looking at $1200-1500 for a brand new one and probably the same or more to rebuild yours...
A new T5 is $1295 on basically every Mustang parts site. Just to clarify anything beyond $1300 will be for a different, stronger transmission.
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A new T5 is $1295 on basically every Mustang parts site. Just to clarify anything beyond $1300 will be for a different, stronger transmission.
Damn... I might just sell it and get a bike.. or trade for one..
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Damn... I might just sell it and get a bike.. or trade for one..
A guy on Baltimore Craigslist sells them rebuilt for 690 with your core. I know someone who bought one and it was a good tranny. Went high 11s on it without a problem.
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Jegs sell a t5 rebuild kit for like 350 i believe. 1300 for a rebuild KIT is crazy!
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A guy on Baltimore Craigslist sells them rebuilt for 690 with your core. I know someone who bought one and it was a good tranny. Went high 11s on it without a problem.
Thanks I'll check that out..

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Jegs sell a t5 rebuild kit for like 350 i believe. 1300 for a rebuild KIT is crazy!
Yeah I saw that too..
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A t-5 rebuild here in southern California is anywhere from 800-1000 rebuilding with OEM spec parts.
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Jegs sell a t5 rebuild kit for like 350 i believe. 1300 for a rebuild KIT is crazy!
He is probably talking with labor. Not to many people pike tackling that in there garage.
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He is probably talking with labor. Not to many people pike tackling that in there garage.
Ah good catch. I read an article on rebuilding a t5, in muscle mustangs and fast fords i believe, and it isnt as difficult of a task as most people think it is.
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Re: 1st gear pop outs..

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Jegs sell a t5 rebuild kit for like 350 i believe. 1300 for a rebuild KIT is crazy!
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He is probably talking with labor. Not to many people pike tackling that in there garage.
If you guys are talking about deadsp0t's post, he is talking about new transmissions, not a rebuild kit.

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Ah good catch. I read an article on rebuilding a t5, in muscle mustangs and fast fords i believe, and it isnt as difficult of a task as most people think it is.

No, it is not very difficult, but I'd bet a rebuild kit is not going to have the parts you may need for this issue.
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You're looking at $1200-1500 for a brand new one and probably the same or more to rebuild yours...
I was more talking of this. And what keaton said.
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I was more talking of this. And what keaton said.
Ok, when he mentioned $1300 I figured he was referring to deadsp0t's post.
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Over the past 400 miles or so 1st gear started popping out more and more.. its pissing me off too.. lol. What do I need to do to fox this? New syncros? New tranny? I was also told that I should try a thicker tranny oil and it should help... What you guys think?? It has the royal purple syncromax in it now..
You can use a trainny liquid called Trans X I got the same problem and after I used that thing all my problems were gone!!! That thing cost like 10 bucks at a local O'Reilly or any other store
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You can use a trainny liquid called Trans X I got the same problem and after I used that thing all my problems were gone!!! That thing cost like 10 bucks at a local O'Reilly or any other store
That's a bandaid on a bullet wound!!! Ouch. It needs a fresh trans
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I was more talking of this. And what keaton said.
That price was based on a shop's quote for parts and labor on a quality rebuilt for parts that are rated for a little heavier duty but still close to stock.. Ended up being right at $1450.

Or $1200-1300 for a straight up new one.

Either way.

Rebuild kits are like $350-400 and shop's labor includes time to take the tranny out, time to rebuild, and time to put it in. They quote take out time at 1.5 hours and put in time at 1.5 hours.. When shop rate are around $110/hr labor gets expensive quickly.
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Damn... I might just sell it and get a bike.. or trade for one..
If you decide to keep it and replace the trans now is the time to decide how far you want to go with your power. Instead of buying another stock t5 now and later build the car to make more power than the t5 can take and have to spend more on an upgraded trans
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That's a bandaid on a bullet wound!!! Ouch. It needs a fresh trans
^^What he said.
While a "snake oil" treatment may or may not make a difference, it is definitely setting you up to do even more damage to your transmission.


I would remove the trans and tear it down to determine what the problem is, then you can decide whether a rebuild or replacement is needed.

P.S. While researching this issue I read that worn bearings can also cause them to pop out of gear, so it's possible that just a regular overhaul kit can cure your problem.
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^^What he said.
While a "snake oil" treatment may or may not make a difference, it is definitely setting you up to do even more damage to your transmission.

I would remove the trans and tear it down to determine what the problem is, then you can decide whether a rebuild or replacement is needed.

P.S. While researching this issue I read that worn bearings can also cause them to pop out of gear, so it's possible that just a regular overhaul kit can cure your problem.
Ok I'll look into that..

So a guy I work with said that on the shift linkage there should be an adjustment to fix the issue.. Thoughts??

When our boss takes off we're gunna put it up on the lift to see if we can find something like that..

And also if it helps, it only does it if im taking off normal or slow.. but if I basically launch it then it stays in gear..
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Ok I'll look into that..

So a guy I work with said that on the shift linkage there should be an adjustment to fix the issue.. Thoughts??

When our boss takes off we're gunna put it up on the lift to see if we can find something like that..

And also if it helps, it only does it if im taking off normal or slow.. but if I basically launch it then it stays in gear..


The "linkage" is internal and it is not adjustable that I know of.
Won't do you any good to put it on a lift.


If you do not have an aftermarket shifter with adjustable stops to keep you from over shifting, there is a good chance you have bent the shifting forks.
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The "linkage" is internal and it is not adjustable that I know of.
Won't do you any good to put it on a lift.

If you do not have an aftermarket shifter with adjustable stops to keep you from over shifting, there is a good chance you have bent the shifting forks.
Thats probably what it is.. what kinda fix is that?
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Thats probably what it is.. what kinda fix is that?
Same thing basically, tear it down, put in a rebuild kit and replace the damaged forks.
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